Boise inks deal with UT Martin in 2013

Let me know, Spin, I'd be delighted.

Let me know, Spin, I'd be delighted.

I will take a gander at your schedule.

Oh, but you still think that they don't belong, don't you?

How many times do people have to say it smiles. A moment does not make a day. Yes, in that moment anomalies occur but in the big picture order is restored. You're thinking would have all of us accepting major upsets as a definition for better programs,etc. I've used it before as an example but Louisiana Monroe is not a better team or program than Alabama and, oh my, should I say it, they beat Bama! And that goes for Utah too, There are always and will be circumstances that lend themselves to upsets. They don't always occur but the elements are in place, Alabama had just had  a devastating loss to go to the NC game against Florida and they had their leader offensive lineman Andre Smith sent home from Sugar Bowl. Utah gets ahead 21-0 and before you can blink ama is back 21-17. Yes, they lost and like I said most the times elements are ripe for upsets and it occurred but that;s all it is. My gosh You have tried to base Boise's entire history off one win over OU in 2007. That is sad my friend. Real sad!


oh yea, and Utah was a pretty good football team that year as well! That year......  

How many times do people have to say it smiles. A moment does not make a day. Yes, in that moment anomalies occur but in the big picture order is restored. You're thinking would have all of us accepting major upsets as a definition for better programs,etc. I've used it before as an example but Louisiana Monroe is not a better team or program than Alabama and, oh my, should I say it, they beat Bama! And that goes for Utah too, There are always and will be circumstances that lend themselves to upsets. They don't always occur but the elements are in place, Alabama had just had  a devastating loss to go to the NC game against Florida and they had their leader offensive lineman Andre Smith sent home from Sugar Bowl. Utah gets ahead 21-0 and before you can blink ama is back 21-17. Yes, they lost and like I said most the times elements are ripe for upsets and it occurred but that;s all it is. My gosh You have tried to base Boise's entire history off one win over OU in 2007. That is sad my friend. Real sad!


oh yea, and Utah was a pretty good football team that year as well! That year......  

Well Put and Soundly Landed. 

Again, the only things Boise fans have as an argument is what other teams "won't do" and one win against OU 6 years ago.

Hypocrisy is a common thing because they know all too well that they are being backed into a corner by their own methodolgy.  Smiles may very well be angry at the Boise AD, but he contradicts this by backing them.

He was ALL FOR the last AD, said he was doing everything right,...until he was canned.

Bottom line, I am sick and tired of the Affirmative Action/Right to Entitlement garbage that goes on with the so-called "lesser/less fortunate".

The Path is always there for those that want to EARN their way, in both Life as well as Sport.  Nobody is "Born" with the advantage.  It is EARNED over Time, consistent hard work, consistent commitment, buy in and dedication to the goal. 

The Path is always there for those that want to EARN their way, in both Life as well as Sport.  Nobody is "Born" with the advantage.  It is EARNED over Time, consistent hard work, consistent commitment, buy in and dedication to the goal. 

Says a fan of a team who each year gets the benefit of guaranteed money from dozens of sources, BCS Country Club Membership, a wonderful tradition, and after having "earned" it, just assumes that they deserve it.  Must be nice to get those benefits, since the ones who "earned" them retired or died years ago, Spinny.  Heck, your school lost more games last year than mine lost in four years, but of course, our team didn't "earn" it, did they?

I find it so inspirational that those who have the advantage now are SO good at lecturing those who don't about the benefits of having privileged inheritances.  Yup, Oklahoma is the boss's son who always loses the big one, but still gets promoted.  But he is so good at lecturing all the junior executives about the benefits of hard work, since he got his job the day he graduated (with a C+ average).

Now excuse me, I need to find a tissue.

Says a fan of a team who each year gets the benefit of guaranteed money from dozens of sources, BCS Country Club Membership, a wonderful tradition, and after having "earned" it, just assumes that they deserve it.  Must be nice to get those benefits, since the ones who "earned" them retired or died years ago, Spinny.  Heck, your school lost more games last year than mine lost in four years, but of course, our team didn't "earn" it, did they?

I find it so inspirational that those who have the advantage now are SO good at lecturing those who don't about the benefits of having privileged inheritances.  Yup, Oklahoma is the boss's son who always loses the big one, but still gets promoted.  But he is so good at lecturing all the junior executives about the benefits of hard work, since he got his job the day he graduated (with a C+ average).

Sounds good from an emotional standpoint Smiles, but it couldn't be further from the truth.  There is no question about OU's Prowess in College Football. If you want to somehow question the Sooner Program, go right ahead.

What you will find is Dynamic Leadership, Multiple National Titles (one of which came 12 short years ago), Multiple Heisman Trophies, a Plethera of Conference Titles, Gobs of Bowl Wins and Legendary Hall of Fame Coches.

Every bit of it, EARNED.

Nothing is free in the Big Boy game my friend. 

If you think Boise would have put up the wins and numbers they did over the last 10 years while playing in an AQ Conference, you need your head examined.  If you want to blame that on "lack of Budget", then you must be Conceding the difference.

Either way Smiles, there is a Massive difference in competition week in and week out.  You don't have the Horses to make a run like that in the Big Leagues.

Have you given any thought to what Mike Leach might do to the Boise recruiting base up there is Wazzu land? Mikey likes those 3 star kids too. 

I tire of these arguments. Neither side will give an inch. It is the same old tired argument over and over again. We have been restating the same arguments using different words and stats.

I think it is safe to say that we will just have to agree to disagree.

Every bit of it, EARNED.

By wonderful people who are all dead or living in a nursing home.

Nothing is free in the Big Boy game my friend. 

It is for you when grandpa pays for it.

If you think Boise would have put up the wins and numbers they did over the last 10 years while playing in an AQ Conference, you need your head examined.  If you want to blame that on "lack of Budget", then you must be Conceding the difference.

Yup, you bet.  Dumb Boise is doing EXACTLY what all those storied schools did all those years ago, when they were out establishing a name for themselves.  Funny how the guy on top always exaggerates HIS accomplishments, most of them really done by others, and then dismisses the efforts of everyone else.  Typical entitlement mentality, the very thing you claim to hate.  What a phony.

And then they wonder why those guys who are scratching their way up don't take kindly to such patronizing bull$hi%?

Either way Smiles, there is a Massive difference in competition week in and week out.  You don't have the Horses to make a run like that in the Big Leagues.

Well, then neither does anyone else.  The NFL thought that 11 of those Broncos were good enough horses to give them a look.  Only Alabama and Oklahoma had more this year.  I'd call that significant steps in the right direction.

50-3 is a damn good run in any league.  The fact that you bend over backwards in a vain attempt to belittle it says all we need to know.

We'll see how Mikey does in Pullman, I wish him well. I spent many an evening with WSU folks during my time in Moscow.  I understand that they've already padlocked the equipment sheds, but anyone who is hated by Craig James can't be all bad, don't you agree?

But here in Boise, we are just fine with what Chris Petersen has done.  He has a better record and doesn't need weekly counseling sessions.

Have you given any thought to what Mike Leach might do to the Boise recruiting base up there is Wazzu land? Mikey likes those 3 star kids too. 

Yeah Mikey likes it alright.  Since 2005 Chokelahoma is 3 and 4 against the mighty Texas Tech Red Raiders and all of their "3 star" recruits.  They blasted OU right out of the stadium in 2009 41 to 13!  And not the 2008 version of the Red Raiders, the 2009 one. 

Looks like Tommy likes it too, eh Spinkiller?  That God awful Texas Tech team waltzed onto your FIELD IN NORMAN ON HOMECOMING AND PUNCHED YOUR CHOKELAHOMA SOONERS IN THE FACE!  I watched the entire game and couldn't believe my eyes.  It was pathetic!  Last year's Red Raider team SUCKED!  Their defense was an absolute ATROCITY, one of the worst I saw at the Division 1 level last year and the offense was very mediocre AT BEST.  They won ONE OTHER BIG 12 GAME OTHER THAN THE OKLAHOMA WIN, barely managing to beat Kansas, another stellar team that went 0 and 9 in conference last year.  In fact Texas Tech followed up that big Oklahoma victory by getting curb stomped 41 to 7 against IOWA STATE the following week IN LUBBOCK. 

Yeah.  Mikey likes it alright, evidently Tommy does too.  

Careful, B4L, now you hurt his feelings.  Horrors, he might stop posting here, can't have that.  I love Spinny's hilarious posts.  The guy is so convinced of his outdated stats, that he has actually thinks that he has a point.  Why else would a supposed Oklahoma fan spend 6 years of his life trashing our team?

I know, I'm evil, but arguing with him is like shooting fish in a barrel.  I shouldn't get into verbal gunfights with a man only equiped with a pea shooter.   But I need to be careful, he may start calling me a liberal, what he always does when he gets owned.

Dude, how many those did he actually SCHEDULE?

If you are now including BOWL GAMES in your "YE RANKED" stats, by all means lets compare.

OU has played 30
Boise has played 13

The End.

There's no question that OU plays a tough schedule.  They play a pretty challenging OOC schedule pretty much every year and used to have the benefit of the Big 12 Championship game in seasons in which they made it that far.  I've always thought that the Big 12 was somewhat overrated, but now with the addition of a very solid West Virginia and one of the best teams in the country these days in TCU, I see the Big 12 as clearly the second best conference out there, if it wasn't already before.  You certainly get the opportunity to play a lot of ranked teams.  I would bet dollars to donuts that there are very few if any teams in the nation who play more, including SEC teams.   

And you were actually close with your "facts" for a change.  Boise did play 13 end of year ranked teams from the time frame that you referenced while OU played 29 of them.

The difference?  Boise went 9 and 4 against those teams while Chokelahoma went 14 and 15.  Yes 14 and 15 folks.  That's the difference and it's a big one.

The End. 

Boise4whatever their are alot of factors in some of those lose's and injurys is on big part. But of coarse Boise wouldn't know much about that, their schedule isn't rough enough to cause you to have very many injurys.

I tire of these arguments. Neither side will give an inch. It is the same old tired argument over and over again. We have been restating the same arguments using different words and stats.

I think it is safe to say that we will just have to agree to disagree.



No armyman their wrong even if they don't want to admitt it. the proof i this. if they were right they would have allready played for the NC, they haven't and they won't as long as they keep playng CREAMPUFFS.

Smiles/someday/Barney.  What exactly is it you think you "have" to give as factual data other than to point out Boise's record against a bunch of scrub teams for 10 years? 

Well you see, that is part of the point, sPIN. One of those scrub teams was YOUR scrub AQ team, along with other top AQs. But yet, here you are trying to belittle that team that beat you. It goes right in the realm of when you once claimed that YOUR team didn't lose to Ore, that same year. Why? Because there was a bad call on a desperation onside kick that denied your team a chance to come back. So therefore you didn't lose. 

I've seen a thousand of you, SPIN. If you fell down, it was because someone must have tripped you. Problems in cless? It was the teacher's fault.  And now? it's If you lose a game, it must be a fluke or it was the refs fault. And now if you lose a bet, it has to be a fluke or it was someone else's fault. It can't be your lack of knowledge or heaven forbed, stupidity. So you need to show every one that it wasn't your fault, but instead, it's some other reason, someone else's fault. 

So here you are on every Boise thread trying to show it wasn't you. It was a fluke that you lost. Your jabs are seldom accurate and they seldom have any semblance of relevence to the current situation. You run in, throw your sucker punch, and run back out. Very typical, actually.  

10-17 in 27 years against AQ Quality Competition is the Fact. 

And so it continues.  Irrelevent losses going back 27 years when Boise was D1aa and Boise was 100K people, losses to top league opponent from 11 years before Boise even scratched their way up to the D1A league, 13 years before the bcs was formed, 16 years before this millenium. That certainly has relevence to now. Pfft!!


 

You beat 200 Scrubs and 6 ranked teams in 10 Years. Incredible.

And so another sucker punch gets thrown and inaccuracies continue and SPINocchio's nose continues to grow.

Not but 4 years ago, Boise was humiliated by a crappy 5-7 Washington 

And yet the little inaccuracies continue once again and the nose grows just a little longer.

Why? In Spin's world, showing a Boise loss to an unranked AQ, (which happens to be the only AQ loss for Boise in 6 years) must surely show that SPIN's separation from his money must have been a Boise fluke(each and every time). How many times was it a fluke, Spin? Hmmm. So tell us SPIN. How many times did Boise separate you from your money? How many times was it all their fault? 3? 4? Moore?

Which is why he jabs at Boise's coach Petersen(one of the best coaches in the nation. Must be his fault), and why he jabs at Moore(One of the most successful college QBs. Must be his fault), and why you jab at Boise quality of player talent (Only 3 programs drafted more players into the nfl this year. Must be their fault). Right?

You see SPINocchio, when someone like you or of your ilk posts, most adults would expect your posts to be accurate and thus showing your knowledge of the subject at hand. But you and your ilk consistently show neither.  

By the way "Mr. Homework".  In 2007, OU beat #4 Missouri TWICE that season.  You see, the 
reason" OU didn't play #7 Kansas, was because the #1 ranked team in the Nation Mizzou beat Kansas for the Right to play and LOSE to the Sooners.

How many times has Boise played and Beaten the #1 team in the Nation TWICE in one season numbnuts? 

That makes 3 Top 10 ranked teams and TWO TOP 5 teams beaten in one season.

But again, nice try junior. 

Nice. #5 final ranked Missouri is now #1 in the land, not once, but twice over.

And while you're bragging it up, was that the same stellar OU that lost to 6-7 Colorado earlier on the season and then went on to get bit**slapped by the big east champ(that just lost to 5-7 Pitt the game before)?

The same OU that got pushed around and beaten by Boise the bowl game before?

Congratulations, I guess.

Too funny  

Gone for a few days, and Spin goes on a spiral.

Wrong Smiles.  AQ vs Non-AQ means All of the difference in the World. 

AQ if FAR Superior to Non-AQ and it has been proven and will continue to be proven. 

The Conference they belong and competition they play can be used in any conversation. Which is EXACTLY why Boise can't be compared properly to The Best of the Majors.  

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Hmm. Damn sPIN, I guess you should have let Boise and TCU know that before they played the Big 12 champ, the Pac champ, the ACC champ, and the Big 10 champ. It doesn't look like they got the memo.

BAMATEE its this way for Boise fans, once the beat you they will allways be better then you. So as long as OU never plays Boise st they will be better.

50-3 isn't all that great with the competition BSU has had. I bet a handful of teams could do it with that schedule. Also the fact that people are trying to argue against it obviously isn't why you stated. It's because of you being a multi-Id troll is why. Everyone wants to shove it all back in your face but you know that already. Its not because anyone thinks BSU is great . . . ...You and Geneh are both the biggest multi id trolls on these forums. Amazing you say the Sooners grandpa earned their recognition. You're either stupid, don't know football or trolling. Hmmm I wonder which one? You are such a worthless troll

No armyman their wrong even if they don't want to admitt it. the proof i this. if they were right they would have allready played for the NC, they haven't and they won't as long as they keep playng CREAMPUFFS.

They are just as convinced that you are wrong as you are that they are wrong. So this is an argument that will go on and on until everybody tires of it and stops posting. In the meantime knock yourself out. Go for it if it makes your day.

There are always and will be circumstances that lend themselves to upsets. They don't always occur but the elements are in place, Alabama had just had  a devastating loss to go to the NC game against Florida and they had their leader offensive lineman Andre Smith sent home from Sugar Bowl. Utah gets ahead 21-0 and before you can blink ama is back 21-17. Yes, they lost and like I said most the times elements are ripe for upsets and it occurred but that;s all it is. My gosh You have tried to base Boise's entire history off one win over OU in 2007. That is sad my friend. Real sad!

oh yea, and Utah was a pretty good football team that year as well! That year......  

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you cannot explain to some people the roller coaster effect of having big games followed by big games. Bama went from playing in the NC to playing Utah. Nothing against Utah but at that time they were looked at as some crappy team from out west. Bama had zero emotion going into the game which is completely understandable. The same thing happened to a UGA team one year. We thought we were pretty good and we got some crap team named West Virginia with somebody named pat white at QB. We were down 21-0 in a minute. We came back and they ran a fake punt very late in the game to hold on 34-31. Sometimes in bowls you lose because you don't take the game seriously and bama did not.