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June 11, 2012 9:04 pm

According to NBA Reference, Miller ranks 192nd in probabilty to make into the HOF.

http://www.basketball-reference.com
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Jims_Doors
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June 11, 2012 9:35 pm

"His career stats are not dominant. 18 ppg, 3 apg, 3 rpg. No question his 3FG% and FT% are very good (career .395 shooter from deep – not as great as you thought it was, is it?), but he was almost always his team’s top scorer, and he averaged only 18 ppg for his career. He finished in the top-10 in ppg only once in his career: 8<sup>th</sup> in 1989-90 with 24.6 ppg. As far as his biggest skill--hitting three-pointers--goes, he wasn't exactly dominant. More like consistently above-average. Miller once lead the league in makes by a slim margin, once tied for the league lead in makes, and never lead the league in 3-point percentage (was 3rd in 1993-94, his only top-5 finish in that category). That’s how un-dominant his stats were. Playoffs, you say? 21 ppg, 2.5 apg, and 3 rpg. Still not dominant. Outside of his stats we have a bad passer (for a guard), a mediocre-at-best defender, and a guy you couldn’t design your offense around. I say that last part because he had to run off screens to get open for catch-and-shoots, which ties up your big men on the perimeter and forces the PG to stall with the ball until he’s open. You don’t win championships that way, and he didn’t.

But wasn’t he considered great when he was playing? 15 seasons, 5 All-Star Games. Huh, that isn’t that impressive. Joe Johnson has 5 in 10 years. Chauncey Billups has 5 in 14 years. Steve Nash has 7 in 15 years. And those are just guards from last year’s game.

Maybe he was considered dominant by another measure? Not MVP voting. Miller received MVP votes in only two seasons. He finished 13<sup>th</sup> in 2000 (with 1 vote, tied with Darrell Armstrong, Michael Finley, and teammate Jalen Rose) and 16<sup>th</sup> in 1998 (with 2 votes, tied with teammate Rik Smits). Just so you didn't miss that, Miller never received more MVP votes than one of his teammates. No, nothing even remotely resembling dominance there.


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June 12, 2012 1:01 am

(some of his biggest moments came in series that his teams lost)
sounds familiar...
DeLaCruz420
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June 12, 2012 1:08 am

sounds familiar...
LeBron James' biggest moment, so far, happened just in the last round in a series his team won.
GoHornets21
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June 12, 2012 3:07 am

Who cares about a series, we're all in it for the rings.
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June 12, 2012 7:30 am

Chris Mullin definitely deserves it.  He was a member of two Olympic Gold Medal teams (two of the best of all time) and that goes a long way towards validating his status.  I know Reggie Miller won one in 1996, too, and I did state that I can see arguments for Reggie Miller.  But Mullin has a stronger case due to Mullin's olympic and college exploits as well.  Ralph Sampson is a head scratcher, though, and so is Jamal Wilkes.

Ralph Sampson got in mainly because of his college career since his NBA career was cut short due to injury. Jamal "Silk" Wilkes is in because he was on 2 of John Woodens championship teams at UCLA and contributed greatly to those wins and in the NBA he was key in winning 4 NBA titles with Golden State and Los Angelos. When you realize that this is the NBA Hall of Fame then you will understand how most get in. But you have people with limited knowledge who believe the Hall of Fame is ONLY for NBA stats which would also lead them to think that Allan Houston was the best Knick ever in the last 16 years who was better than Kobe Bryant in 98-99!  But hey we learn more each and everyday.
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June 12, 2012 7:40 am

If Reggie gets in, I guess Mark Price deserves to be also? This is from that same writer who, you know is actually a proven writer, unlike someone who have a W next to their name to make it look they know what the hell they're talking about.

Proven writer???? He a proven writer because he started a blog and writes his opinions on the internet???? LOL! I see why your a lost soul cause you dont actually know what your talking about. Did he write the article that convinced you that Allan Houston was better than Kobe Bryant in 98-99??? Your out here talking trash with limited knowledge. Your motivation is hate. See your comparison of MArk Price to Reggie Miller shows your limited basketball knowledge. Miller scored 15000 more points than Price and please inform us of any record that Price previously held or currently holds. How many conference Finals or NBA Finals did Mark Price play in??? Did he leave Georgia Tech 2nd on the list in scoring only behind one of the greatest big men to play at the school or the NBA. Doors you might need to visit the Naismith Hall of Fame at least once in your life and talk to someone and find out how and why some get inducted instead of listening to your 6 year AAU/highschool coach now highschool referee to for yoru opinion.
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June 12, 2012 7:51 am

<dl class="t-mult tweet-dl"><dd>Tom Haberstroh from twitter:

In game-tying and go-ahead FG under 24 seconds left 4Q/OT this postseason, Kevin Durant is 3-4. Rest of NBA? 1-31
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June 12, 2012 7:55 am

LeBron James' biggest moment, so far, happened just in the last round in a series his team won.

He has had plenty big moments in the First 3 Rounds of the playoffs. Now can he have big moments in the NBA Finals so his fans can stop crying and then he can shake that monkey off his back!
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June 12, 2012 9:03 am

"He has had plenty big moments in the First 3 Rounds of the playoffs. Now can he have big moments in the NBA Finals so his fans can stop crying and then he can shake that monkey off his back!"



yeah, so far that "monkey" has fangs and razor sharp claws. we're about to see if he CAN actually shake it off soon, though...













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June 12, 2012 9:06 am

"In game-tying and go-ahead FG under 24 seconds left 4Q/OT this postseason, Kevin Durant is 3-4. Rest of NBA? 1-31"


interesting stat. means KD is big in clutch moments...














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June 12, 2012 9:26 am

"In game-tying and go-ahead FG under 24 seconds left 4Q/OT this postseason, Kevin Durant is 3-4. Rest of NBA? 1-31"

Lebron is 1-31 in clutch shots

best clutch shooters:
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June 12, 2012 9:56 am

If you don't think the NBA is fixed then you aren't paying attention.  Stern is probably mad at lebron for not actually winning a championship.  It's been handed to him on a platter and he still hasn't won one.  Stern got his ratings match up Lebron vs. Durant.  Too bad lebron still won't win...
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June 12, 2012 10:14 am

i think KD is more clutch than lebron.   final possession, one shot.. KD or Lebron, I go KD.   But I would take Wade over KD.   Wade has closed out an NBA finals.   Wade stepped to line in game 5 of the NBA finals in 2006 with 1.9 seconds left in regulation with the Heat down 1, and calmly hit two of the clutchest free throws i have ever seen.    KD is good, but until he steps up like that, i will take Wade.

But KD or Lebron and one shot?   Give me KD.
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June 12, 2012 11:35 am

All haterism and joking aside
HATE for LeBum is even higher in the finals.  The higher the fall , the greater the hate and the funnier the jokes.
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June 12, 2012 11:45 am

He has had plenty big moments in the First 3 Rounds of the playoffs. Now can he have big moments in the NBA Finals so his fans can stop crying and then he can shake that monkey off his back!
Oh, for sure.  We'll see how Kevin Durant responds as well.  Because he doesn't have any big moments in the NBA Finals, either.  Don't forget that in 2007, LeBron James was going to his first trip to the Finals and people spoke about how great he was and how he was going to have multiple trips.  You just can't tell how someone responds to the NBA Finals pressure.
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June 12, 2012 3:25 pm

Anyone who roots for the Heat is a bandwagon fan....they can't even get the people to the stadium on time!  The arena is dead most of the time and this city really doesn't deserve an NBA team.  No passion for the sport.
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June 12, 2012 3:41 pm

If there's any justice in this world the Miami Meatballs will be swept in an ebarrassing fashion by the Thunder.

The only thing that saves the Meatballs, like they were in the Celtic series (see game 2) is Stern and his crooked cronies refs .. particularly Joey Crawford who is clearly bought and paid for and guaranteed will be working the pivitol games in this series.

So good luck Oke vs. the Meatballs + 3 bought refs you'll probably need it.


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June 12, 2012 3:49 pm

Anyone who roots for the Heat is a bandwagon fan....they can't even get the people to the stadium on time!  The arena is dead most of the time and this city really doesn't deserve an NBA team.  No passion for the sport.



They think it's as easy as getting the best players together.
They think it's automatic championship with 2 superstars and an all-star.
 
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