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My preseason top 25 applied to postseason models

Posted on: February 13, 2012 1:21 pm
Edited on: February 13, 2012 1:25 pm

You've got to start somewhere in shaping a new postseason model. Using this humble correspondent's preseason top 25 posted Monday as a template, here are a few possibilties. All of them are among the 50 or so discussed last month in New Orleans.

A seeded Plus One on campus (The Delany Model. Top-four rated teams meet in national semifinals):

No. 4 Oregon at No. 1 LSU and No. 3 Oklahoma at No. 2 USC.

Winners meet this season in the Orange Bowl based on the BCS rotation.

A Plus One in the bowls Oregon vs. LSU in the Cotton Bowl. Oklahoma vs. USC in the Sugar Bowl. Winners meet in the Orange Bowl.

An unseeded Plus One (Playing a championship game after the bowls. In this model, all six BCS league champions guaranteed a berth. No. 7 Arkansas and No. 9 Georgia are left out. Unranked Rutgers is in as Big East champion. A human committee and/or rankings determine the top two teams after the bowls):

Rose Bowl: USC* vs. Wisconsin*

Fiesta Bowl: Oklahoma* vs. Oregon

Sugar Bowl: LSU* vs. Clemson*

Orange Bowl:  Rutgers* vs. Alabama

*-conference champs

Two highest-ranked teams after the bowls meet for the national championship. Championship game location TBA.

No automatic qualifiers (No. 1 vs. No. 2 meet in the championship game. Four other major bowls are populated by the remaining teams in the top 10. Ohio State not eligible. In this scenario, five SEC teams are included. Big East and ACC not represented because no teams are ranked in top 10.)

BCS title game (Orange Bowl): LSU vs. USC

Rose: Oregon vs. Wisconsin

Sugar: Alabama vs. West Virginia

Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. South Carolina

Cotton: Georgia vs. Arkansas

Are there any other postseason models? Probably. For now, this is your lump of Play-Doh to shape.



Since: Mar 11, 2012
Posted on: March 12, 2012 6:46 pm

My preseason top 25 applied to postseason models

Why not a 5 game, top 6 ranked teams with no AQ system:

First Round:  #1 & #2 get a first round bye
#3 vs. #6 in the Rose Bowl
#4 vs. #5 in the Fiesta Bowl

Semi Finals:
#1 vs. (Winner of #3 vs. #6) in the Cotton Bowl
#2 vs. (Winner of #4 vs. #5) in the Sugar Bowl

National Championship:
Semi Finals winners in the Orange Bowl

Keep rotating locations every year as we already do. 

Since: Jan 13, 2012
Posted on: February 23, 2012 8:00 pm

My preseason top 25 applied to postseason models

I agree with the unseeded Plus One option.  See my analysis of the 30 years of college football prior to the BCS era (1968-1997) for the results of such an approach.  There would have only been 3 years of controversy over who was #2 after the bowls.  The 4-team seeded playoff would have had 6  years of controversy over who was #4 at the end of the season; and there would have been 6 years in which teams ranked lower that #4 (ie, out of the playoffs) rose to #1 or #2 after the bowls.

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: February 21, 2012 7:53 pm

My preseason top 25 applied to postseason models

Another Power House Program gets selected for top 50 this year UNC
I don't see someone from NC making poor misguided statements about the SEC Football Conference

That shows stupidity

Since: May 27, 2008
Posted on: February 18, 2012 5:41 am

My preseason top 25 applied to postseason models

Now look here SEC fans! Right now you are the darlings of the BCS. The last thing you want is a playoff! You love the fact that all you have to do is be competitive in your conference and you get a shot at the national championship. If a playoff becomes a reality you will not be "winning" all these so called championships. You know it, I know, it and the college football world knows it!

Since: Dec 6, 2010
Posted on: February 15, 2012 11:08 pm

My preseason top 25 applied to postseason models

Six SEC NCAA Championships in a row and counting on more.  We love football down here and welcome a playoff system that extends the college football season.  The NCAA just hasn't figured out a way to do it yet.  Hopefully the fans will clamor and scream loudly for it and we get a playoff system.  Currently we are working with what we have and the SEC dominates.  I look for more of the same with a playoff system.  We just have the best football down here and have had it for years.  We don't talk about ifs and buts we just get on the field and kick some butts.

Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: February 14, 2012 9:15 pm

My preseason top 25 applied to postseason models

"You lost to a so so team in your so so conference."

So-so conference even though Oklahoma State's schedule was much tougher than Alabama's (Alabama only really played 2 difficult games all year long)? 

Depending on which rating system you use, the Big 12 was actually the toughest conference.  The SEC was definitely tougher at the top, but they were also much weaker at the bottom.

Since: Mar 21, 2008
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:56 pm

My preseason top 25 applied to postseason models

Make a rule that requires all bowl games to be played ON or BEFORE January 1.  The 4 major bowls should have the spotlight on Jan 1 and then spread out the bowls similar to the way now.  This allows all the bowl games and traditions to remain in tact.  Now, of the 4 major bowl games, match the 1 vs. 2, like the current BCS does, AND also match 3 vs. 4.  Of course, rotate the 2 bowl games that host championship games each year.  THEN one week later play the winners of the 2 designated championship bowls.  So in only one extra week you can play out a 4-team playoff scenario, keep the current bowl games, keep the BCS, and the polls.  Designate and rotate host city for the National Champion like ncaa basketball does.  Simple!  

Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: February 14, 2012 4:46 pm

My preseason top 25 applied to postseason models

Oh my God! I had to post this.  If I hear another OK State fan bring up the fact that the Women's Basketball Coach died in a plane crash less than 24 hours from their loss to Iowa State, I will probably go nuts. This coach had no relationship to the football team other than the school. This is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard, and OK St. fans keep saying this as an excuse for why their team lost to Iowa State.  Fact, You lost. You were up 17, down throttled your intensity and couldn't get back into the game.  I didn't see any of your players crying on the sideline when they weren't on the field. You lost to a so so team in your so so conference. Get over it. Next time don't lose. 

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: February 14, 2012 3:30 pm

My preseason top 25 applied to postseason models

Have the guts to play real teams in a playoff format
What a moronic statement. The SEC plays as good a non-conference schedule as any other conference.

In BCS NC games they are undefeated, beating FSU, Oklahoma (twice), Ohio State (twice), Texas, and Oregon. Which one of those was not a "real team". I think the fans of those schools might take issue with your comment. The SEC proposed a Plus One years ago and other conferences ran from it. The SEC was the first major conference to play a Conference Championship Game, putting their top team on the line every year. Other conferences are "just getting around to" that compared to when the SEC started.

You're not going to find any top SEC teams shy of playing top teams in Bowls or NC games. However, I personally would hate to see the college NC cheapened like, for example, this year's Super Bowl was for the pros. Yes, the Giants made a nice run. It would have been nice if they had earned their spot with an entire season of good work. I personally would have much rather seen the Packers and Patriots in the Super Bowl. In the NHL, back when they had 21 teams, 16 made the playoffs. They played an entire season to eliminate 5 teams. ROFL The NCAA BB tournament has watered down the regular season pathetically. Championships are best when they represent the cream of the crop, and not just what team can get hot or lucky for a while at the end of the year.

I say that even though my stand could well have eliminated Alabama, the college football team I've followed since the early 60s, this year. When Bama lost that game to LSU in November Bama fans were hopeful, but we knew that the odds were against us getting another bite at the NC. Other teams had to stumble badly to get Bama back into the picture, and those teams did make those stumbles. For some reason fans in other areas think its OK to condemn Bama for a loss where they missed FGs including one in overtime, but it was fine for OK State to lose in the same way and supposedly have as good a claim to be in the NC game. LOL

Don't you just love hypocrisy??   

Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: February 14, 2012 2:39 pm

My preseason top 25 applied to postseason models

"Keep BCS!  No playoffs for college football because there will be more prone to have injuries to the players and lose chances of having to play in the NFL or getting good draft picks.   You all want playoffs because your team sucks and can't compete top 10 year in and year out! "

The only fans that don't want playoffs seem to be those in the SEC. Why? Because of the SEC, one sided media!

Have the guts to play real teams in a playoff format. Why should your team go to the championship game based on someone's opinion? Let them win it all on the field...against teams that are good...not teams that are voted in by some writer or geek behind a desk. 

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