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Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

Posted on: December 3, 2011 11:51 pm
Edited on: December 4, 2011 1:05 am
If it all goes away for Alabama, Nick Saban will have taken his last shot on GameDay.

Complimenting LSU.

Smooth move or last gasp? 

That's the lasting image of Alabama's push for a national championship berth that could be slipping away overnight in the BCS. Jerry Palm says, for now, 'Bama looks solid at No. 2.

But let's review: The savvy Saban did his savvy best to be savvy Saturday morning, giving LSU its proper props. Even the mother of all TV hypefests may not help 'Bama as it sat on the sideline on the last day of the regular season. The intent, of course, was to expose Alabama as much as possible for two hours on national television.

What Saban failed to mention, or perhaps comprehend, was that Oklahoma State would be responsible for Bob Stoops's second-worst career loss. The Cowboys' 34-point over margin over Oklahoma on Saturday night was second only to OU’s 2005 BCS title game loss in the Orange Bowl. That 55-19 trounching at the hands of USC team that had to vacate its season because Reggie Bush was competing while ineligible.

Just to put a nice, neat bow on this season. Yeah, right. There is nothing but uncertainty as we wait for the final BCS standings Sunday night. Palm says Oklahoma State will have to make a significant leap in the human polls to pass Alabama. Consider the computers a wash. Alabama came into the day leading the Cowboys in that category, .9500-.9300.

Oklahoma State began the day fifth in both the Harris and coaches’ polls. Virginia Tech's loss to Clemson in the ACC title game helped but perhaps not enough. If the computers stay basically the same, Palm says Okie State has to finish at least 19 points ahead of Alabama in each of the human polls to have a chance. Oklahoma State currently trails Alabama by 342 points in the Harris poll and 166 points in the coaches' poll. That essentially means the Cowboys are going to have to pass Stanford, which didn’t play, and Virginia Tech in the human polls.

"I'm not sure one team ahead of [Oklahoma State] losing and one team putting up a big number [Clemson] is going to change the fact that everyone thought all along that LSU and Alabama were the two best teams," Palm said. "The voters would have to have an epiphany. That's basically what we're talking about."

That’s not to say the voters won’t change their minds. After watching one conference win five titles in a row, there could be such a thing as SEC Voter Fatigue.

The computers don’t know this was Stoops' second-worst loss. They don't know that Saban subtly was hyping his team on ESPN. A lot of the voters won’t either. Should it matter? Victory margin is largely factored out of the machines anyway. The circle argument will continue overnight until the final standings are released.

Computers don't know that Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy endorsed Alabama at No. 2 last week, then went on the stump for his team immediately after the OU game.

Computers don't know the minds of the Cowboys on the night of Nov. 18. That was less than a day two Cowboys women's basketball coaches lost their lives in a plane crash. The next night the Cowboys lost their only game to Iowa State. Should that matter?

Computers don't care a hoot about an LSU-Alabama rematch which would be the first of its kind in BCS history.

So what we're left with are these base arguments:
  • Oklahoma State’s only loss in an 11-1 season came to unranked Iowa State on the road in overtime two weeks ago.
  • Alabama’s only loss came to No. 1 LSU at home in overtime a month ago.
  • Oklahoma State has an elite offense.
  • Alabama has an elite defense.
  • Oklahoma State won its conference.
  • Alabama didn't win its division.
Which team would you pick to play LSU in the national championship game? The answer isn't obvious. Immediately after the game Stoops said he would vote LSU-Oklahoma State 1-2.

That's one man. So is blogger Tom Fornelli, who may have provided the most compelling evidence this week. Fornelli posted blind resumes of all the contenders for No. 2. Oklahoma State got 80 percent of the vote.

But the computers don't care about that either.

Category: NCAAF

Since: Sep 24, 2007
Posted on: December 4, 2011 12:48 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

Bama fans are morons. You beat no one. 2 ranked teams. Not one in the top 10. OSU beat 5, 2 of which are top 10 teams. The one loss was on the heals of a major tragedy. All bama fans have to hang their hat on is a loss to the #1 team in the country, that is ALL you have, who you LOST to. Morons!

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: December 4, 2011 12:46 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

So for two weeks the voters voted Bama unnamious #2 and OSU #5, That would be the real joke here. Changing your mind because OK sucks. Oh and by the way that Fornelli resume is a bunch of crap.
It's only crap because it exposed you for what you are. You have a name. Oklahoma State has a resume. If your name was Boise State, nobody would even be debating the question.

Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: December 4, 2011 12:41 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

Enough about the SEC already. LSU is a really good team. So is Bama but we have already seen that game. OSU is pretty darn exciting to watch and is one wide right from being undefeated. It is time to give OSU a shot and stop this talk about rematches that will excite folks in essentially two states. On the other hand I guess the game can be Bama and LSU which will just let me catch up on the episodes of Boardwalk Empire. Hopefully I can put Nucky on hold and enjoy the coach who is a 40 year old "man" run up and down the sidelines

Since: Jun 26, 2007
Posted on: December 4, 2011 12:39 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

This is a perfect example of why I havnt watched a college football game in 5 years and I'm a huge football fan.  NO playoff the means there is NO champion. Boycott the game guys.

OSU deserves a shot, no team who didnt win there conference should even be considered without a playoff.

If that plane doesnt go down OSU ends the season undefeated they shouldnt of even played that game IMO.

Just one person's opinion but I wont be watching the game.

Since: Oct 10, 2010
Posted on: December 4, 2011 12:38 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

i am not a fan of any of the schools. all i can say is that it appears that alabama already had their shot at beating LSU on their home field and lost. NEXT!

OSU should be #2  and they should get their shot.

Alabama has 2 wins over ranked teams this year. I'm a little confused as to why they are the clear #2 for the pollseters.

The OSU win over top 10 Oklahoma was more impressive than any win for Alabama all year. That includes Alabamas win vs. division 1 AA Georgia southern who they struggled against for a half.

Since: Nov 6, 2011
Posted on: December 4, 2011 12:37 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

Playoffs will settle this once and for all - take the conference champions and play until the last one is standing..... if the SEC dominates under that system it just looks like everyone will have to step it up to compete - at least we know it's a fair medium as the winner has played the game and the guesswork is gone........

Since: Dec 12, 2006
Posted on: December 4, 2011 12:33 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

The SEC has shut down the BIG 12 offense every time it has been called upon in the BCS Title game. Why would we want to see another blowout? Just look back to LSU/A&M last year. We don't want that again. Game of Century II much more exciting than a blowout.

Since: Oct 16, 2007
Posted on: December 4, 2011 12:30 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

So for two weeks the voters voted Bama unnamious #2 and OSU #5, That would be the real joke here. Changing your mind because OK sucks. Oh and by the way that Fornelli resume is a bunch of crap.

Since: Mar 12, 2009
Posted on: December 4, 2011 12:30 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

I want to see the elite offense of OK ST versus the elite defense of LSU. That is the better game rather than Game of the Century II.
IF LSU could make OK State offense looks a sickly as it did Alambama, Arkansas and Georgia then they are one of the great college teams of all time and kinda snuck up on us as the year progressed. Neither Alabama nor LSU quarterbacks are inside the top 40 and we have already seen the kind of game they would likely play again.

Since: Dec 12, 2006
Posted on: December 4, 2011 12:29 am

Uncertainty awaits 'Bama, OK State in BCS

All we have to go is this: Ok State beat A&M by 1 point. Arkansas beat A&M. Bama beat Arkansas by 3 TD's. Arkansas was playing their worst football during the stretch when they played A&M also. Travesty? Ok State lost as a 4 TD fav to Iowa State? A travesty is them getting into the game after doing that!

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