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Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Posted on: October 20, 2011 11:29 am
Edited on: October 20, 2011 1:04 pm
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A formal 16-team college football playoff worth at least $650 million has been proposed by Mountain West commissioner Craig Thompson.

CBSSports.com obtained information from the document that was distributed to the 10 other Football Bowl Subdivision commissioners. It proposes that a human committee would rank 30 teams at the end of the season to help select the 16-team field. Those rankings would determine the 1-through-16 seedings. At least six Football Bowl Subdivision (formerly Division I-A) conference champions would be in the field. There would be a maximum of three teams per conference.

Thompson had an eight-team playoff proposal rejected by the BCS in 2009. With the current BCS agreement ending after the 2014 bowls, there is an opening for suggestions for new postseason models. BCS executive director Bill Hancock did not immediately comment.

Thompson's proposal was sent to those 10 other FBS commissioners, Notre Dame and Hancock.

Under his proposal, first-round games would be played the week after conference championship games (usually the second week of December).  The games would be played at the home stadium of the top eight seeds. The quarterfinals would follow on Jan. 1 or 2 at the four major bowl sites -- Orange, Sugar, Fiesta and Rose.

The semifinals would be played at the stadium of the two highest-seeded remaining schools. Bowls could bid on hosting the championship game.

Financial bonuses would be awarded to participating conferences based on performance in the NCAA's Academic Performance Rate. There is also a clause that would allocate $50 million "to address issues of integrity in intercollegiate athletics."

Several playoff scenarios have been proposed by commercial entities. The NCAA even explored the possibly in the mid-1990s before dropping the idea.

The Arizona Republic interviewed Thompson about his proposal on Wednesday.However, CBSSports.com was able to obtain specific detailed information about the proposal.

The FBS commissioners were to discuss Thompson's proposal at a previously scheduled meeting Sept. 20 in Chicago. But conference realignment issues forced the meeting to be cancelled.

Information from the document details the revenue windfall long anticipated from a playoff. Under Thompson's plan, a conference would receive $25 million for each top eight seed it had in the field. For seeds 9 through 16, the revenue would decrease by $2 million in descending order. For example, the conference of the No. 9 seed would get $23 million, No. 10 seed, $21 million, etc.

Conferences would then receive $20 million for each team that reaches the quarterfinals (round of eight). The remainder of the revenue from the semifinals and championship would be distributed this way: Two shares for each for each of the semifinal winners. One share for each for the semifinal losers. Each of those shares, according to information in the document would exceed $25 million.

According to a source, Thompson also asked for support from the so-called "group of five" non-BCS conferences to support and promote the proposal. There was no consensus of support from those four other leagues -- Conference USA, WAC, MAC and Sun Belt -- according to the source.

The Mountain West at least is staying in the news. Thompson's league and Conference USA announced an alliance on Friday. The champions of each league -- soon to be a 22-team consortium -- would play each other, the winner of which would theoretically get an automatic BCS bowl bid. Both leagues are currently non-automatic qualifiers for BCS bowls.

They have received no assurance that they would receive an automatic bid under the new arrangement. The current BCS agreement runs through the 2014 bowls (2013 season). The champions of each BCS league (Pac-12, Big 12, Big East, ACC, SEC, Big Ten) are guaranteed a BCS bowl. That leaves four other spots filled by second teams from BCS leagues. Notre Dame and non-BCS league champions can also qualify by meeting certain benchmarks.

 

 

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Since: Mar 24, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 2:59 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

A 16 team playoff is exactly what is needed.  Genius! 



Since: Oct 9, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 2:59 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Call them qualified automatic bids, if you will. 

I wouldn't be opposed to that type of qualifier, Nitro.  There is just something romantic about Louisiana-Lafayette taking a shot at Alabama in the first round on a large stage.  It would give a national audience to a school that normally wouldn't get one, which in terms of money can mean better facilities and in recruiting, better prospects.  Either way, as long as some sort of tourny is implemented, I'm good with it.



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 2:47 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

This could also fix the mega conference strategy, as conferences would more then likely keep conferences at 12.

Great point, hoodoo.

10 - 12 team conferences with automatic bids plus 6 at large bids for the bigger conferences would be perfect and would end the debate over which college football team is the best.  

The only disagreement I have with this is I think there should only be automatic bids if the conference champions meet a minimum ranking.  Call them qualified automatic bids, if you will.  I am not interested in including a MAC, WAC or SunBelt team if they can't manage to  produce a team in the top-20.  Find a way to give all conferences a minimum payout, regardless of whether they can field a decent team or not.



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 2:33 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Whats wrong with playing out the bowl season, and then take the top four teams and then letting them face off, no need to have 16 teams, if you lose games in Oct, or Nov, too bad! after the bowls are over you should have no problem figuring out who the top four teams are! the reason, Thompson wants 16 teams, is so his conference get some cash!

 

Jngkat, your scenario would limit the playoff to the winners of the 4 BCS bowls.  This is not very inclusive, especially for the non-AQ conference schools.  Personally, I don't really care about them, but a 16-team format is large enough to make them shut the hell up.  Most levels of college and high school football have adopted 16 team playoffs because of the numerical simplicity and because the field is large enough that anyone left out is statistically irrelevant.  This is why I have always favored a 16 team format.  Of course Thompson wants it to assure his conference is included.  Why wouldn't he?  Not to mention, there is nothing wrong with including the mid-majors. 

My thought is we can have our cake, and eat it too.  As in have a meaningful playoff, and still leave the existing bowl structure largely intact.




Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: October 20, 2011 2:18 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

They do this in FCS every year.  One champion at the end, no disputes.

And you can go ahead and keep the lesser bowls.  If people are showing up to the "up with people" bowl now between craptown state and Unknown U, they will show up even if they're out of the 16 game playoffs.



Since: Jul 28, 2007
Posted on: October 20, 2011 2:14 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

ya since no team from the mountain west is in the top 8 :/



Since: Sep 30, 2008
Posted on: October 20, 2011 2:09 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Hmmmm....lets do the math...in an 8-team playoff, would anyone from the Mountain West EVER get in??????? This whole story is a real shocker.



Since: Oct 9, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 2:01 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

This is what everyone wants.  The problem is, one of the networks will have to step up and agree to pay the price.  Money is the only thing that anyone is listening to and if a network will pay the price a tournament would make more money for the conferences and the teams that participate.  This could also fix the mega conference strategy, as conferences would more then likely keep conferences at 12.  Smaller conferences would keep TV money already coming into the conferences split among fewer universities and depending on the stature of the programs would insure that each conference gets one automatic bid.  The only drawback might be that more universities might decide to go independent with their own TV deals, and play for an at large bid.

10 - 12 team conferences with automatic bids plus 6 at large bids for the bigger conferences would be perfect and would end the debate over which college football team is the best.  With the at large bids it would also keep the need for a rankings system which will still give reporters and computers something to argue about during the season.  Once the 10 automatic bids are determined, take the 6 highest ranked teams not to get automatic bids and use the rankings to determine homefield.  Better yet have the current bowls bid on hosting a tourny game which could make more money and have tourny games at a nuetral site.

The BCS and bowl system will never go away, unless the universities and conferences can be convinced that they can make more money with a tourny.  Come on networks!!  The current bowl system gives out between 270-280 million a year to the conferences, cbs and turner sports pays the ncaa 750+ million for the basketball tourny, I have to believe that a network or combination of networks can come up with 400-600 million a year for the rights to 15 college football playoff games.  Plus the non tourny teams can still go to bowl games, probably with smaller payouts, but it would still mean even more money for the universities.   



Since: Nov 11, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 1:48 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

While this plan is fine in theory, no matter what happens people will complain. The fans of team ranked 17 will be up in arms because they should have been in the playoffs as opposed to team ranked 16. Regardless of what happens, people will be upset and not everyone will be happy. At least with the old bowl setup, the smaller teams that had great years of 7 wins had something meaningful to play in.
Either way, things will change and I fear they wont be for the better.  



Since: Jun 11, 2010
Posted on: October 20, 2011 1:42 pm
 

Mountain West proposes 16-team playoff

Whats wrong with playing out the bowl season, and then take the top four teams and then letting them face off, no need to have 16 teams, if you lose games in Oct, or Nov, too bad! after the bowls are over you should have no problem figuring out who the top four teams are! the reason, Thompson wants 16 teams, is so his conference get some cash! 


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