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Missouri officially looking (unofficially at SEC)

Posted on: October 4, 2011 8:12 pm
Edited on: October 4, 2011 9:02 pm

Since it started it, maybe Missouri figures it can finish it.

Or as finished as conference realignment can ever be.

Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton got permission Tuesday night from the school's board of curators to seek new conference membership. Nothing surprising there. In case you haven't been following, this would the first move toward Missouri becoming the SEC's 14th team. One problem. No one is sure if the SEC even wants a 14th team at the moment, much less Missouri being that school.

The hand-wringing, then, will continue from BYU to the Big East. Missouri's decision controls the fate of several teams and conferences, including their current one, the Big 12. The fractured league cannot move on with expansion, or even a future, without knowing if Missouri is going to be a participant.

And all indications are Missouri is going to take its good, old time. That was evident when Missouri AD Mike Alden met with the curators for four hours on Tuesday. Perhaps Missouri was contemplating the fact  it kicked off this latest round of realignment. Reacting to Dec. 9, 2009 statement that the Big Ten was considering expansion, Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon quickly added:

"I want to look at what options the Big Ten may have to offer. This is not something that should be kept on the sports page and treated with the back of the hand. We have an obligation to make our schools as excellent as they can be."

Big 12 nervousness followed. In the next month, Nebraska began talking with the Big Ten. In June, issues came to a head at the 2010 Big 12 spring meetings. Shortly thereafter, Nebraska left for the Big Ten. Colorado went to the Pac-10.

"The [Missouri] governor's remarks got me going. We had to do something, and fast," CU AD Mike Bohn said at the time.

Turns out Missouri wasn't near the top of the Big Ten's list. Now things have come full circle. Everyone can blame Texas for throwing its weight around, but how is Missouri different at this point? It suddenly has leverage. It is holding a league hostage. It is making a perceived money grab.

It could be the fourth school to leave the Big 12 in 16 months -- and it doesn't care. Expect the next few weeks -- if not months -- to be a period of introspection for Brad Pitt's school. Missouri has to decide if it wants to leave its ancestral home. The Big 12 has roots that go back 104 years for Missouri.

It has to decide if it wants to change its culture from a Midwestern school to one with its base in the heart of Dixie. Does it want to be Bubba or Brad? Does it want to be at the center the Big 12 or a western outpost in the SEC?

There is no right answer. The difference in revenue is negligible. Missouri could stay in the Big 12 and be secure at least the next six years. But the SEC would provide long-lasting security. Missouri football is an above middle-of-the-road program in the Big 12. It would be a middle-of-the-road program in the SEC.

But this isn't about football. This is about emotion, which can be a dangerous thing. That's why Deaton merely has permission at this point. The last two presidents to get similar permission from their boards of regents, came to different conclusions. Texas A&M went to the SEC. Oklahoma, eventually, stayed in the Big 12.

For now. 

Category: NCAAF
Tags: Big 12, Missouri, SEC

Since: Sep 29, 2008
Posted on: October 12, 2011 11:45 am

Missouri officially looking (unofficially at SEC)

Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: October 11, 2011 10:41 am

Missouri officially looking (unofficially at SEC)

So, another Jayhawker adding his worthless two cents...   It is Kansas they schedule for homecoming not a team that has 40 wins over the past four years.   Thanks for adding nothing to this post.  BTW: you may want to read up on some facts before you go back to your imaginery "Charleston"  

Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: October 11, 2011 10:39 am

Missouri officially looking (unofficially at SEC)

Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: October 11, 2011 10:38 am

Missouri officially looking (unofficially at SEC)

Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: October 11, 2011 10:33 am

Missouri officially looking (unofficially at SEC)

Since: Aug 2, 2011
Posted on: October 6, 2011 12:02 pm

Missouri officially looking (unofficially at SEC)

Cool if the big 12 sec and the pac 12 would give me a few million i would fix this mess up in a few day's

Since: Sep 4, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2011 9:04 am

Missouri officially looking (unofficially at SEC)

This has bad writen all over it. Bad for the Big 12, bad for true Missouri fans and really bad for Missour football. I was born an raised in Kansas City, Mo. I now live in Charleston SC( SEC country), they look at Missouri as the team you schedule for homecoming. Stop considering the money and consider the true Missouri fans in the nation...Royalchieftiger

Since: Oct 5, 2011
Posted on: October 5, 2011 5:20 pm

Missouri officially looking (unofficially at SEC)

SEC's sudden fondness for  Assoc of American Universities (AAU) is limiting B1G and ACC options. B1G practically requires AAU and ACC and P12 prefer it much more so than BE or SEC or B12 where it is more a secondary consideration.

Besides Vandy and Florida who you mentioned, there is now A&M and potentially Missouri as AAU schools in SEC.

Until Nebraska got kicked out of AAU after joining B1G (obviously for different reasons) all B1G teams are AAU. I am sure they would make an exception for Notre Dame who is not, if they could also get 3 more AAU schools.

Looks like it may be now or never for B1G approaching Missouri. Keeping that KU-Mizzou rivalry in tact while still holding a place open for Notre Dame would make a lot of sense after B1G.

The B1G  were already caught napping once from adding Pitt from BE and Maryland form ACC to appease Penn St whose nearest B1G foe is 5 hour 45 minute drive to Ohio State.

Now ACC has Pitt, Maryland, Syracuse and UVA all closer to PSU, if ACC economics become more competitive,

What may be holding up B1G is if KSU and KU are a package deal. KU is AAU rated #101 same as these non-AAU schools: Nebraska, FSU, NC St , Oklahoma and Oregon who is AAU. K-State is not AAU and is only rated #143 in US News & World Reports top 200.

In ACC the closest AAU schools for B1G would be Pitt, Maryland and UVA, much more so than UNC, Duke, and GA Tech.

IN BE only remaining AAU school is Rutgers. UCONN is good academically but not AAU, TCU is #97 and not AAU already committed to BE and potentially being wooed by B12.

Cincy is #143 same as KSU, Louisville and WV are 160 same as Tx Tech and USF is #181. None of these are candidates for B1G to get from 12 to 16 or for ACC to get there from 14.

In B12 it is only Missouri for time being at least, plus Kansas, Iowa State and Texas who belong to AAU.

P12 has 8 AAU schools and 4 non-AAU three of them sister schools in same state AZ St, Oregon St and Wash St, plus Utah who is new to P12.

So without Missouri, even if B1G convinces ND and makes an AAU exception, not a lot of AAU schools to get them from 12 to 16 some day.

ACC would love to get there by persuading PSU and ND some day and B1G would likely have to pilfer from ACC to get there unless it could get Missouri and KU without K-State. Not sure how Iowa would feel about Iowa State.

So like Pitt was for ACC, Missouri is a double counter one for SEC and one less for B1G.

Since: Aug 11, 2011
Posted on: October 5, 2011 3:11 pm

Missouri officially looking (unofficially at SEC)

So they never won the current conference title and they are leaving to a little bit more harder one?!?!?!?! Just throw in the towel right now and forget it. If they think they will recruit differently, yeah right.....ask ole miss or ark. The recruits go to the SCHOOLS and not the conference. If Florida or bama left for the big east, would recruiting hurt? no!! As for expansion, they better get in gear. I wouldn't wait for Mizzu to make up its mind. Andding teams right away might cause them to stay.

Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: October 5, 2011 2:52 pm

Missouri officially looking (unofficially at SEC)

Izzone - Kansass will end up finding a home.  I realize this is 99.9% about football, but any conference (other than the SEC because bball might as well be a womens only sport in that conference) is going to end up jumping on a top 5 hoops program and just deal with the mediocre to crap football that it brings. 

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