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Oklahoma-Texas officials met Sunday in Norman

Posted on: September 12, 2011 9:14 pm
Edited on: September 12, 2011 11:38 pm
NORMAN, Okla. -- Texas officials met here with Oklahoma administrators on Sunday, a source confirmed for

A reasonable person could assume that the meeting had something to do with the schools moving together from the Big 12 to the Pac-12. The Associated Press reported that Texas president William Powers, AD DeLoss Dodds and women's AD Chris Plonsky met with Oklahoma officials. Texas spokesman Nick Voinis confirmed for that the meeting took place but would not elaborate.

A spokesman for Oklahoma president David Boren did not return a call for comment. Other OU officials were mum as well.

This is a critical time not only for Texas, Oklahoma and the Big 12 but for all of college athletics. Oklahoma's decision on whether to go to the Pac-12 could usher in the age of super conferences. The general feeling on campus here is that it is a done deal, Oklahoma going west. But there is the still issue of the Pac-12's public stance and legal wrangling involving Texas A&M to the SEC.

The speculation is that Texas A&M will eventually get through the current legal hurdles and join the SEC as the 13th team. That would clear the way for Oklahoma to move to the Pac-12 citing the instability of the Big 12. The question is, would Texas follow?

SEC commissioner Mike Slive said in a statement Monday that the conference remains "optimistic" that A&M will join his league. He added that the league is looking at schedules in 2012-13 involving a 13-team membership. He said, "We don't have immediate plans for a 14th member."

That could be decided quickly if the Big 12 breaks apart. The SEC couldn't be accused of poaching if it took, say, Missouri after the Big 12 unraveled. Boren said previously that his school would not be "a wallflower" when it comes to conference realignment and that Oklahoma's future affiliation could be decided within a couple of weeks. reported Monday that the OU board of regents have given unanimous approval to join the Pac-12.

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott reiterated Saturday that the league isn't looking to expand but, "If schools are going to leave the Big 12 and there's going to be a paradigm shift, or a landscape change as people like to describe it, we'll go ahead and step back and look at our options, then reconsider."

If Oklahoma leaves then Texas would have to make a significant decision -- join OU and try to make its Longhorn Network fit in the Pac-12, go independent or try to make a go of it in a diminished Big 12.

Whatever the case, the look of college athletics seemingly is about to change dramatically.
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Since: Aug 13, 2011
Posted on: September 18, 2011 11:55 am

Oklahoma-Texas officials met Sunday in Norman

"when will all this speculation end. The pac 12 will probably not take Texas because if they take Oklahoma, Oklahoma St. will probably come with them. The Pac 12 isn't going to want a 15th team which would be Texas."

The PAC 12 will not be a 15 team conference. All the talk I have been reading says, if it expands, it will be a 16 team conference. The old PAC 8 in a western (Coastal?) Division with the Arizona schools, the Oklahoma (?) schools, the Texas (?) schools, Utah and Colorado in some kind of Eastern Division. But here is one thing you can count on. When oil billionaire and Oklahoma State supporter T. Boone Pickens, and ex-Governor of Oklahoma and current President of the University of Oklahoma both publically state that they want those two schools to stay together in whatever conference they may join, you can believe that that will happen. From the state of Texas, all the talk I have read indicates that Texas would probably not be the only school from that state. Tech may tag along as well. I just can't see Utah vetoing this move.

Since: Oct 23, 2009
Posted on: September 15, 2011 11:26 am

Oklahoma-Texas officials met Sunday in Norman

Larry Scott is not dumb enough not to take Texas and they wouldnt come alone. Texas Tech would be part of the deal. Texas brings too much money and too many fans to the table not to get something worked out.

Since: Nov 18, 2008
Posted on: September 15, 2011 6:05 am

Oklahoma-Texas officials met Sunday in Norman

when will all this speculation end. The pac 12 will probably not take Texas because if they take Oklahoma, Oklahoma St. will probably come with them. The Pac 12 isn't going to want a 15th team which would be Texas.

Since: Oct 9, 2006
Posted on: September 15, 2011 1:22 am

Oklahoma-Texas officials met Sunday in Norman

You can guarantee that Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado are going to vote NO to the conference adding those schools. Does USC want to play second fiddle to Oklahoma and Texas. It all sounds good on paper, but the new PAC-12 members in my opinion are not going to go for this, especially if one of the divisions does not get trips to the California schools each year.

Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: September 15, 2011 12:53 am

Oklahoma-Texas officials met Sunday in Norman

As long as UT has the Longhorn Network, the Big 10 will not take them.  I know that it is hard for some UT fans to accept that not everyone wants UT with the Longhorn Network attached, but its true.  Believe it or not, Texas does not always get its way.  I think it is more likely that UT will go independent to keep the network, than UT joining the Big 10.

Since: Sep 14, 2011
Posted on: September 15, 2011 12:50 am

Oklahoma-Texas officials met Sunday in Norman

UT may be "sought by every conference" but the Longhorn Network is not.  Now that UT has that extra baggage, OU is in the driver's seat.  I personally think OU will leave because the Big 12 is so instable, at some point in time the conference is going to fall apart.  The only real question is will UT join OU in the PAC 12. 

Since: Nov 6, 2006
Posted on: September 14, 2011 10:49 pm

Oklahoma-Texas officials met Sunday in Norman

As someone who used to live on the West Coast and now resides in Texas, I'll tell you you're way off on your assessment of TV market share in relation to college football. Other than USC in LA, none of the teams you mentioned move people to TV screens in their markets. No one in the Bay Area cares what Cal and Stanford are doing because Oakland and San Fran. are pro cities. Same is true in Denver for Colorado and Washington for Seattle. I've heard ASU can get the natives restless in Tempe (Phoenix) and have never stepped foot in Oregon, although Portland - it's biggest city - isn't exactly a major market either. What Texas would bring to the table if it joined the Pac-12 is about a 60-70% share of the state's major TV markets which in includes DFW, Houston and San Antonio. The Longhorns alumni base is huge and fans in these cities care more about them than what U of H, SMU and UTSA do combined. That is drawing power and a big reason why Texas is sought after by EVERY conference and why they refuse to give up control of the LHN. Given time, that thing could make some serious cash for both UT and ESPN.

Since: Apr 25, 2009
Posted on: September 14, 2011 8:15 pm

Oklahoma-Texas officials met Sunday in Norman

For someone criticizing the construction of NOLA connection's post, buckempup09's post here is so syntactically garbled and otherwise ambiguous as to be utterly incomprehensible.

Since: Jun 25, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 2:00 pm

Oklahoma-Texas officials met Sunday in Norman

This whole story keeps ignoring legitimate reports of Texas talking with the BigTen.  Yes, Texas denies it, but their first interest is in keeping the Big 12 intact and reports of them going to the BigTen hurt that cause.  I have seen too much really good analysis by lawyers of why it would be stupid for Texas to go to the Pac12 instead of the BigTen to discount this.  People underestimate the impact of losing media attention by going west (which is why the Cowboys refused to be pushed into a western division),  the real money to be gained in academic research grants with the BigTen, and the incredible combination available with a joint Texas/Notre Dame entrance into the Big Ten.  Yes Texas will scream and deny, but they will leave a ton of money on the table if they go west.

Since: Feb 4, 2010
Posted on: September 14, 2011 10:40 am

Oklahoma-Texas officials met Sunday in Norman

Come in off the farm, take a deep breath. Just because you don't understand something does not make it wrong. Really you are going to throw around the work elitism. Your team against the world is awful elitist. The fact that you can hate anything including a rival team that much is a little disturbing. You need more love in your life. There should be enough to love your team and your conference. If you love your mother does that mean you can't love your father. The your team and your conference are both yours get use to it. If you love your church do you have to hate all who don't. Come in out of the darkness the world has many shades of gray in it, not to mention all the real colors. Hatred is not in the definition of a real rivalry. I personally love my god my country my team and my conference. Geaux Tigers 
This post is full of fail comparisons, it is hilarious.  What farm do I live on?  Must be that tourist farm in my city you're talking about.  I understand it fully, first of all.  My team vs. the world is not elitist if I am not saying my team is better than the world, like some of you fanboys are saying.  I am saying every team is trying to get what my team is striving for.  Hence us vs. them.  Quite the difference there.  And a parents comparison to rival teams?  Really?  How does that even work?  I don't compete for recruits, games, titles, etc with my parents, so that makes little sense.  And how does religion and sports relate in the sense you used it in?  Church A doesn't directly compete with church B where I come from.

 If you could comprehend a little better, you would notice that the type of fan I called out IS indeed elitist.  Saying "come play teams in our conference and we will show you how bad you really are!" is pretty darn ridiculous.  Why not say our team instead?  There is (rarely)no basis for these comments.  We see them pop up time and time again after a major team from another conference struggles.  But feel free to keep attacking my personal life and making baseball comparisons, because it is clearly helping your case.

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