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Everyone looks bad in latest Big 12 snit

Posted on: September 7, 2011 4:45 pm
Edited on: September 7, 2011 9:16 pm
Congratulations Big 12, now you're all to blame. It's not just Texas A&M or Baylor or Oklahoma or Texas or Dan Beebe. It's all of you looking like fools.

The infighting that broke out Wednesday is embarrassing. If Texas A&M wants to go to the SEC, let it go. This looks like a cat fight on "Housewives of Beverly Hills," except the participants wear bow ties and carry law degrees and conduct endless conference calls. It's half tortuous, half torture.

A&M president R. Bowen Loftin is accusing Beebe, the Big 12 commissioner, and member schools of slowing the Aggies' migration to the SEC. A portion of the remaining nine Big 12 schools are with Baylor in reserving the right to have legal claims against the SEC. Twenty years from now fathers will be telling their sons the story of the Big 12. The dads will first pour themselves stiff drink.

These are educated people who should know how to conduct themselves. Instead, they look tawdry, jealous, petty. At the moment, Baylor is rallying a group of conference thugs -- yeah, I said it -- to try to delay A&M's inevitable move to the SEC. At the same time, they're trying to delay things so much that either Oklahoma loses its desire to go to the Pac-12 or the Pac-12 simply shuts the door.

In announcing it had voted Texas A&M in as a 13th member, the SEC said Wednesday in a statement that it had "unanimous written assurance from the Big 12" on Sept. 2 releasing any legal claims against the SEC.

However, Loftin had difficulty getting assurances for what were termed "release of claims," from other Big 12 schools. That was following a Wednesday Big 12 conference call that included what were estimated to be at least seven Big 12 institutions but not all 10.

"At least half, if not the majority are going to reserve their rights for litigation," a source said. "Unless you've got great options that would not be a wise document to sign."

Given recent reports at least five Big 12 schools have those "options" for future conference homes -- Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Missouri. That would leave Iowa State, Kansas State, Kansas and Baylor without clear prospects should the conference collapse.

In a Sept. 2 letter to his SEC counterpart Mike Slive, Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe said his conference would not take any legal action against the SEC if Texas A&M were admitted by Sept. 8.

"We both agreed it is in the best interests of each of our conferences and our members institutions," Beebe wrote, "to ... to waive any and all legal actions by the conference and its members resulting from admission of Texas A&M into the SEC."

Baylor and others disagree.

"The end game is to stabilize the Big 12," the source said. "What most of us are looking for is a stable conference."

None of this means any of the other Big 12 schools will actually sue. Oklahoma has a decision to make in pursuing the Pac-12. OU president David Boren said Friday that process could take up to three weeks. Oklahoma State would likely follow Oklahoma if the Sooners headed west.

Texas then would have to decide between 1) following Oklahoma to the Pac-12; 2) staying in a diminished Big 12; 3) going independent and 4) going to an expanded ACC. Even though ACC commissioner John Swofford shot down the idea of Texas coming to his conference on Monday, there are those who think that idea may be alive. In choices 1-3, the continued viability of the LHN is in question. Option No. 4 would theoretically would allow Texas to bring the Longhorn Network with it.

Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Saturday that the conference remains "wedded" to it equal revenue distribution model.

Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 19, 2011 2:08 am

Everyone looks bad in latest Big 12 snit

Informative blog post, this is certainly. It's repeatedly ideal to reach up and down a good solid reveal which is expensive.

Since: Sep 20, 2008
Posted on: October 16, 2011 8:50 pm

Everyone looks bad in latest Big 12 snit

You're completely wrong about that.  Basketball makes a tiny fraction of what football does.  KU didn't even come close to being third.  They're clear at the bottom because they can't even make a bowl game most of the time.  Only 12 times in 120 years.  The east and west coast already have lots of good basketball teams so you can't even call KU a national brand really.  They're in a state that's one of the least populated in the country and allegiance is split between them and their in state rivals.  So, they bring very little value where it matters most.  Television viewership.  That's what these conferences are after because that's what they use for leverage when negotiating contracts with the networks.  Kansas brings absolutely nothing there and neither does KSU or ISU.  Former KU A.D. Lew Perkins was interviewed in Sports Illustrated.  They asked him about the debacle last season with realignment and he said that KU never received a single phone call from any conference.  That says it all really.  

I'm not a Texas hater by any means.  I root for them everytime they play the Okies.  However, the powers that be at your beloved university have really screwed this conference up in a big way.  Two of the better programs as far as television viewership are now gone and if Mizzou goes that's a third.  The Okies are chomping at the bit to leave and the best the Big 12 can come up with is a TCU program that is good but has little support and doesn't make up for the loss of the Aggies, Huskers, and potentially the Tigers in the least bit.  What's shaping up is that all the schools that have something to contribute in temrs of leverage with the networks will eventually leave and the conference will consist of Texas and a bunch of schools that had no place else to go.  Very sad really.  The thing is, it's a picture that's very easy to see for most but the powers that be in Austin just don't seem to get it.  I'd say it's time for them to play nice but I think it could be too late.  If Missouri goes that's only going to stoke the fire in Oklahoma and eventually they'll bail too.  That'll be the straw the breaks the camel's back.

Since: Sep 20, 2008
Posted on: October 16, 2011 8:37 pm

Everyone looks bad in latest Big 12 snit

Uh, I don't know who fedl you full of crap but the Big 10 is seen a has been conference that was once great but now yesterday's news.  About any school would rather be in the Pac 12 or SEC when it comes to athletics.

Since: Sep 8, 2011
Posted on: September 8, 2011 11:55 pm

Everyone looks bad in latest Big 12 snit

Just wish A&M would go away.  Their inferiority complex is creating a gigantic mess!  That very same one that made them agree to take less money than Texas in the first place.  The SEC is great the way it is, A&M is not wanted by the fans or needed by the conference.  Regardless of what Aggies think of themselves, you are not well thought of by SEC fans.  Please, just go somewhere else.

Since: Mar 28, 2010
Posted on: September 8, 2011 10:54 pm

Everyone looks bad in latest Big 12 snit

Dodd can't reasonably charge the Big 12 with anything. The Big 12 conference is not expecting anything from A&M other than the buyout fee A&M knew would come after breaking last years committment to the conference.
 Some conference members are preparing to litigate because of potential damages suffered by their institution as a result of A&M's departure. Get it straight! Individual institutions not the conference!
A&M has claimed they are being held hostage. This is a laughable claim. A hostage is told they cannot leave! No one has told A&M they can't leave. They are free to go. But leaving will come with a significant pricetag. A price that became higher because A&M made a 10 year agreement last summer and contracts were negotiated based on the 10 teams who all made that agreement. Some may suffer huge losses, some not as much. But make no mistake, A&M is free to go. They just can't leave for free.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: September 8, 2011 10:26 pm

Everyone looks bad in latest Big 12 snit

LonghornLou....really?  The Big Ten is the most sought after conference in the country.  The Big Ten is all about tradition, academics, and prestige.  Missouri already wetted themselves when the Big Ten flirted with them about an invite only to be snubbed for Nebraska so they certainly don't have to "obtain" any school or several schools as you're suggesting, in order to get one school.  The Big Ten will only add schools that match those of it's current affiliates.  Kansas State?  No thanks.  Kansas qualifies and The Big Ten may be interested in inviting them down the road, but not anytime soon. 

As I've stated several times, I see the Big Ten choosing 3 of these 4 schools while leaving a spot open for Notre Dame to join, Missouri, Kansas, Pitt, and Maryland.  If it were me, I'd let Pitt go and increase The Big Ten Networks's presence in the STL, KC, and DC/Baltimore tv markets to increase revenues by adding the other three.

Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: September 8, 2011 10:20 pm

Everyone looks bad in latest Big 12 snit

Longhorn- why would the Big 10 take 3 mediocre programs that don't add much of any new markets?  If the Big 10 expands, it will be with someone huge like Texas/Oklahoma, or eastward to a market like Rutgers/Syracuse.

Since: Sep 10, 2008
Posted on: September 8, 2011 8:52 pm

Everyone looks bad in latest Big 12 snit

The way I see it, the B1G will end up taking ISU, KU and KSU in order to obtain MO. MO and KU play the "Border War" that they'd have to be willing to forgo or play it OOC which is hard to sustain. Plus ISU would provide another in-state rivalry, and KSU and KU also share an in-state rivalry. And don't forget that KU brings an excellent basketball team to the conference. Right now all the talk is about football but basketball is the country's second most profitable collegiate sport. If you don't think that KU brings any money to the table you should check out how the Big 12 distributed it's revenue. KU was third on the list behing only OU and Texas. The Big 12 definitely saw value in their program. And KSU's football program is better than Syracuse, Rutgers and UConn.

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: September 8, 2011 8:37 pm

Everyone looks bad in latest Big 12 snit

CavsFan:  I understand what you're saying and like your insight.  This realignment will be treated as a business transaction with money more important than any other factor, however regions will still play a big part of realignment.  You can't make a "Big Market Conference" as you suggested because the school would spend soooo much money on travel costs for their other athletics.  Notre Dame is independent in football solely on a money-based decision with that being their NBC tv deal, and fly all over the country playing teams in several different regions but they still play the rest of their sports in the Big East Conference.  The realignment will not get this radical as to where all these teams are in different conferences in football and the rest of their sports in another.  It won't be like South American soccer, where if you lose a certain game, you drop down to a lower-competition division. 

My idea behind making 4 major conferences and 4 mid-major conferences would allow for a Championship Playoff Bracket to be formed as a series of playoff games thus having more championship caliber games creating even more revenue for the schools/NCAA.  Any team not in this bracket, but still bowl eligible, would still go to a bowl game which would still have the same sponsors, marketing, etc, so the revenue from the bowl games would still be the same.  It's a win-win.  The public gets their playoffs and the NCAA/schools get more money all while an actual champion can be crowned by winning the playoffs like in all other sports, rather than voted for in polls after all the bowl games are completed.

Since: Oct 14, 2010
Posted on: September 8, 2011 6:08 pm

Everyone looks bad in latest Big 12 snit

The Longhorn Network is a  farce.  I have talked with other Texes Exes and we are unable to get the LHN from our cable providers.   It doens't look like the creation of the LHN is very far along.  And since the Rice game last Saturday was a big incentive and since that boat has sailed, I imagine a large number of TEXAS fans are not that interested  and won't be for some time to come.  UT may be better off relocating to the PAC or wherever before trying to get us on the LHN bandwagon, if there is still a need and desire for it.

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