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Looks like Texas A&M to SEC could happen

Posted on: August 11, 2011 12:45 am
Edited on: August 11, 2011 9:28 am
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Gene Stallings foretold the current upheaval a year ago.

The Aggies former coach and regent said all the right things about staying in the Big 12. But in the same breath Stallings said that if things did break up he'd rather see the school join the SEC rather than the then-Pac-10. Don't forget that Stallings has extensive experience in the SEC as a national championship coach at Alabama.

Obviously, things have progressed -- or degenerated -- since then. Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe said Wednesday night he is taking "very seriously" reports that A&M is in conversations about joining the SEC. There were indications at the Big 12 media days last month that the school was close to joining the SEC in 2010 before it decided to stay with the reconstituted Big 12.

The Aggies continue to lean eastward toward the SEC and away from the Big 12. It's a given that the school feels a certain independence and a desire to break away from Texas' influence. The recent rancor over the Longhorn Network was merely a symptom of that rancor. It still believes the SEC could be a long-term home because ...

--Stability. The SEC has it. The Big 12 doesn’t.

--Money is no object. The payouts in both conferences are essentially going to be equal when the Big 12 goes to market for its primary rights in a couple of years.

--Arkansas is a natural rival from the old Southwest Conference.

--If the SEC were to balance things out at 14 teams (for now), Missouri would be an obvious candidate. That would given the Aggies two travel partners in a league that would stretch from South Carolina to Houston.

As for the SEC, it would love to have recruiting access to Texas. Texas -- and the rest of the surviving Big 12 -- would then have to battle SEC schools coming into the Lone Star State for recruits.

Remember, if this happens it won't be portrayed as a predatory move by the SEC in any way. This will be A&M trying to get away from Texas and strike out on its own. Whether the SEC then chooses to go to 14 or 16 will be the next issue. You can bet the Big Ten and Pac-12 commissioners aren't going to sit on their hands and lose traction in the marketplace.

As far as those long-term deals signed by conferences? They can all be adjusted. I'm told they all include periodic "look-in" clauses that would allow for adjustment due to change in membership.

As crazy as the summer of 2010 was, it's hard to believe that the Big 12 might not make it to the 2011 kickoff with a solid 10 going forward.
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Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: August 11, 2011 6:47 pm
 

Looks like Texas A&M to SEC could happen

Texas just got shot down by the NCAA as far as televising High School games is concerned.  If the Big 12 sticks to it's guns, and only allows Texas to televise one meaningless non-con home football game, this situation may be over.  Texas A&m would really have no reason to join the SEC now, unless they just flat wanted out.  So now, ESPN takes a huge hit because they, and the University of Texas have a network thaqt is basically meaningless.  All of their plans have been shot down, one way or the other.  Nice move, ESPN.  Enjoy your 24/7u reruns of Mack Brown making up excuses for Texas's latest loss.



Since: Apr 21, 2009
Posted on: August 11, 2011 6:25 pm
 

Looks like Texas A&M to SEC could happen

if the sec takes a&m they would renew the rivalry with arkansas and start a new one with lsu. the next step would to add fsu or somebody like clemson, which would both have a natural rivalry with reams in the east. fsu with florida and georgis, clemson with s. carolina and tenn or georgia. i would also like to see ( if they expand to 16 ) miami and oklahoma join. then texas would be allowed to go out on there own.



Since: Jun 4, 2008
Posted on: August 11, 2011 5:47 pm
 

Looks like Texas A&M to SEC could happen

While I will agree that as far as natural rivals go, nothing beats an in state rival, but the last decade has produced some very very good game between the Razorbacks and the Tigers. Arkansaas hard a hard time of it when they first came into the S.E.C. but they have gotten more competitive as the years gone by. Having lived in Louisiana for a decade and having family roots in arkansas for generations this is a very good rivalry! I for one would hate to see Arkansas moved to the east, I look forward to the day sfter Thanksgiving for the Razorbacks of Arkansas to play the mighty Tigers of L.S.U.!



Since: Jun 4, 2008
Posted on: August 11, 2011 5:18 pm
 

Looks like Texas A&M to SEC could happen

Another move toward the coming of the Super Conferences, it's like the beginning of a horse race and the jockeys are fighting for position. As an old Arkansas and Southwest Conference fan, I would welcome this addition to the S.E.C. I was hoping that last year the S.E.C. should have added Oklahoma and A. & M. to the S.E.C. West and raid Miami and Florida State from the A.C.C. and have them go the the S.E.C. East. If A. & M. does come aboard I'm sure it won't be the last move. I wonder who else the S.E.C. would bring aboard to get to 14 teams? I bet the Big 12 is scrambling to keep all remaining teams in the conference. Is the Big 12 the Titanic or can they stop the hemorrhaging? TexAss ought to do everyone a favor and just go independent. I don't know if there is a conference big enough to handle their demands.



Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: August 11, 2011 5:04 pm
 

Looks like Texas A&M to SEC could happen

Not sure that I agree with you.  LSU basically has no real rivals in the SEC.  The whole Golden Boot farce with Arkansas is a contrived filler for the end of the season because you don't have anybody better to play while the Iron and Egg bowls are happening.  Adding A&M would instantly make them your biggest-- no wait, Arkansas and A&M would then become each other's biggest rival.  You guys can still schedule Tulane though, right?  Seriously, ask Coach Miles if he woudn't salivate at the prospect of only having to play one of Auburn/Bama each year, or neither of them, and not fighting with them for the division?  I would think LSU would be all for moving them both to the East.  Make sense?
You being an SEC outsider, I wouldn't expect you to understand the conference dynamic nor the traditional rivalries.  To say LSU has, "no real rivals in the SEC" is like saying the Yankees and Red Sox get along - it simply doesn't make any sense. Yes, the 'boot" was a bit contrived when the series began, but of course a fan of either school would laugh at you for saying the outcome doesn't matter.  Ask any Razorback fan what they think about LSU and vice-versa, and the one thing you won't find is indifference.  Ole Miss HATES LSU, Auburn and LSU hate each other, etc.  You make the mistake of thinking a team can have but one rival.  Look to the NFC East to disprove that incorrect notion.  All 4 teams hate each other, just like the SEC West. 

As far as making the schedule easier, it again becomes apparent that you are an SEC outsider.  We don't shy away fom competition lol, we seek it out, especially LSU.  That is why they play Florida from the East every year, and travel out of conference as much as anyone (Oregon and West Virginia this year away from Baton Rouge).  We are seeking an easier schedule.  At the end of the year the only way to sort out folks with equal loses is quality of competition/strength of schedule, which is why SEC teams (contrary to the erroneous perceptions of those up North) play so many other BCS conferences.

I understand you wanting to make your little model work, but splitting up LSU, Auburn, and Alabama just isn't going to happen.  It would be a bad economic move, a bad fan-base move, and as all SEC fans know, a sentimental pill that just couldn't be swallowed.



Since: Mar 20, 2007
Posted on: August 11, 2011 4:51 pm
 

Looks like Texas A&M to SEC could happen

Uh, Tennessee is a much bigger rival for Alabama & UGA is a much bigger rival for Auburn than LSU.  Last I checked both UT & UGA were in the SEC East.  I'm sure some Bama & Auburn homers can confirm their biggest rivals.
Well that is absolutely false.  And the homers have said so.  Non-SEC fans just don't get it.



Since: Aug 15, 2006
Posted on: August 11, 2011 4:34 pm
 

Looks like Texas A&M to SEC could happen

There is no way that Auburn and Alabama would ever be moved to the East as LSU is the biggest rival of each school (outside of each other).  Anyone familar with the SEC knows instantly that is a nonstarter. 
Not sure that I agree with you.  LSU basically has no real rivals in the SEC.  The whole Golden Boot farce with Arkansas is a contrived filler for the end of the season because you don't have anybody better to play while the Iron and Egg bowls are happening.  Adding A&M would instantly make them your biggest-- no wait, Arkansas and A&M would then become each other's biggest rival.  You guys can still schedule Tulane though, right?  Seriously, ask Coach Miles if he woudn't salivate at the prospect of only having to play one of Auburn/Bama each year, or neither of them, and not fighting with them for the division?  I would think LSU would be all for moving them both to the East.  Make sense?


The 14th school would in all likelihood not even be another Big-12 team but more likely an East coast school.  There has been talk of Clemson but I think that is just talk,
Clemson and Carolina do NOT want to be in the same conference.  They are both fine right where they are.  Anyone familiar with the SEC knows instantly that THAT is a real non-starter. Tongue out 
When the SEC expanded in the nineties, it was a stated goal to add one team from each region so us not to upset regional rivalries (and of course Arkansas and South Carolina were added), and there is no reason why that would be different this time around.
I think there IS a reason that it would be different this time.  When the SEC grabbed for Carolina and Arkansas, as you mentioned it was clearly to increase the footprint in both directions at once.  Carolina was an independent, with no one to piss off by leaving, and Arkansas was gettting out of what was a declining/struggling SWC.  I don't think a correlation exists with the current ACC.  That league really isn't in trouble, and most all of those teams are happy where they are, either dominating basketball, or dominating football, or...uh...being Wake Forest.  Maybe trying to pry loose another BEast school would be the way to go, but those poor folks have suffered enough having to invite the likes of Louisville, Cincinnati, Connecticut and UCF.  Leave them alone for a while.



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: August 11, 2011 4:33 pm
 

Looks like Texas A&M to SEC could happen

Why would they take Georgia Tech? They don't add a new TV market. They don't add a new recruiting market. They don't even add a good team to increase bowl revenue. What's the point? None.



Since: Nov 18, 2008
Posted on: August 11, 2011 4:20 pm
 

Looks like Texas A&M to SEC could happen

If the SEC takes the Aggies then then dominoes will start to fall once again, and the SEC better look right in their own back yard at GA Tech first if they want to try to protect their home turf. Don't be surprised if the Big 10 comes calling in Atlanta trying to get a foothold into a major market in the SE at a university that meets that academic standards. There have already been rumblings...



Since: Aug 15, 2006
Posted on: August 11, 2011 4:19 pm
 

Looks like Texas A&M to SEC could happen

Unlike us he has the ability to edit dumb arse...
Doesn't need to be edited.

Why the insult just because I pointed out an apparent lack of reading comprehension ability?  Is it because you're all upset that mean-ole internet people are calling Texas bad names?

Pobrecito.


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