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USC vacates, is Ohio State next?

Posted on: June 6, 2011 6:09 pm
 

Ohio State, you're next.

 Well, maybe, but the non-story that was the BCS finally and absolutely vacating USC's 2004 title on Monday does have implications colored Scarlet and Gray. The way things are trending in Columbus, Ohio State could be the next to vacate a BCS bowl win. A BCS source told me that the same standard would hold for Ohio State if it was forced to vacate this year's Sugar Bowl: Wait until the case is decided and all appeals are exhausted.

 Admittedly, the stakes would be a bit smaller but no less embarrassing. A national championship wasn't involved in Ohio State's 31-26 win over Arkansas. Six players mysteriously reinstated for the bowl somehow were. Five of those six players were key contributors in the win. At issue is how many of those victories will end up standing when the NCAA is through with Ohio State.

 Those six players were cleared by the NCAA to play that particular game but this case has miles to go -- no pun intended re: Terrelle Pryor loaners -- before it is finalized.

 And, no, that doesn't mean Arkansas becomes Sugar Bowl champion if Ohio State vacates. Just like USC in 2004, if the Buckeyes vacate, there likely will be no 2011 Sugar Bowl champion in the BCS' eyes.

 USC is believed to be the first team in the wire service era (since at least 1936) to have a national championship removed. 

Category: NCAAF
Tags: BCS, NCAA, Ohio State, USC
 
Comments

Since: Jan 9, 2008
Posted on: June 9, 2011 1:25 am
 

USC vacates, is Ohio State next?

Don't be surprised if Gene Smith and Gordon Gee are both unemployed in the near future.

Hopefully Jim Delany will be joining them on the unemployment line.  I doubt we could be that lucky though..



Since: Feb 7, 2009
Posted on: June 8, 2011 7:15 pm
 

USC vacates, is Ohio State next?

love how it's good friend, now when it started it was ex- friend.And also were is all the concrete evidence...in the players that traded stuff for tatoos that dont even have tatoos...or a car picture of pryorTHAT HE OWNS.Or reports from ex friends or articles from SI that writer is on the verge of getting slapped in court.So all this concrete evidence for a foundation that would not pass building code.Yes Ohio state is going to get hit,maybe 20 25 scholarships.BUT what you don't understand is OHIO STATE is a public school funded by the state meaning they can offer 1/2 scholarships.....all games will be vacated from last year....cept the sugar bowl...unless they prove pryor was ineligible when that game happenend....wich will be hard to do considering he was cleared to play.And no bowl eligibility.......I'd be more worried about THE GREAT SEC NOT BEING ABLE TO SIGN 35 PLAYERS A YEAR JUST SO THEY CAN KEEP THEM IN THE SEC....That sec teams dynasty is over... you cant play ever cus you broke a toe......hahaha the end is near sec



Since: Mar 3, 2007
Posted on: June 8, 2011 3:43 pm
 

USC vacates, is Ohio State next?

So what is the value of a Terrelle Pryor autographed ball or mini-helmet these days?



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: June 8, 2011 1:01 pm
 

USC vacates, is Ohio State next?

This case is a bit different from the USC case in that there is a LOT more solid evidence.

At Southern Cal, it was all about Reggie Bush and the free house, cars and gifts. There was also some talk of Joe McKnight and a few others but it was never revealed if they found any concrete evidence. It didn't help that Bush would not cooperate with the investigation and Pete Carroll & staff skipped town. I think the NCAA hammered USC based on Bush plus all the other things they are pretty sure happened but could not totally prove.

The Ohio State case involves multiple players and there are truckloads of evidence: emails, paper trails, cashed checks, text messages, phone calls, witnesses, photos of Pryor in dealer cars. This evidence includes undeniable complicity as well as confessions from Jim Tressel.

I would be shocked if they got the death penalty but it is going to come pretty close. Add in the factor that the NCAA has egg on their face from the clumsy handling of the Tattoo 5's eligibility for the Sugar Bowl (as well as Cam Newton). Ohio State will get hit MUCH harder than USC did.

Don't be surprised if Gene Smith and Gordon Gee are both unemployed in the near future.

If you believe that Ohio State is going to "be okay", I have a football stadium in Columbus that I would like to sell you.



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: June 7, 2011 11:45 pm
 

USC vacates, is Ohio State next?

In light of this new evidence, I feel they could be the same as USC's if the NCAA ups the charges. Not good for OSU.



Since: Jan 9, 2008
Posted on: June 7, 2011 11:44 pm
 

USC vacates, is Ohio State next?

Charges have been handed down, and none include failure to monitor or lack of institutional control. Can they be added to? Sure. Will they? Doubtful.

If Lack of Institutional Control isn't added here, it never should be again.  OSU's penalties will end up making USC's look like a slap on the wrist



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: June 7, 2011 11:20 pm
 

USC vacates, is Ohio State next?

OK, there's a paper trail of checks Pryor deposited. Idiot.




Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: June 7, 2011 10:52 pm
 

USC vacates, is Ohio State next?

I never ducked after the florida loss, never ducked after the LSU loss...if it happens, it happens, I just don't believe it will.




Since: May 23, 2011
Posted on: June 7, 2011 10:48 pm
 

USC vacates, is Ohio State next?

Lol, yeah, I'm done.  You show no desire to learn/know the rules or even the facts surrounding the situation.

OSU is screwed.  To think otherwise is delusion at it's finest.

Just promise me that you'll be around in 6 months when the hammer is lowered.  Thanks in advance.  Have a good night.




Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: June 7, 2011 10:37 pm
 

USC vacates, is Ohio State next?

Well, they earned those, so idk about free. Reguardless, they were their own posessions and not even close to the same thing. Lol, more speculation about something that can't be proven eh? I'm not gonna sway your thinking, you won't sway mine. Agree to disagree at this point in the debate. And yes, they will be ok.


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