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Why the NFL loves the ACC

Posted on: February 8, 2011 12:43 pm
Edited on: February 8, 2011 4:11 pm

Gil Brandt loves to analyze the draft. At times, Gil Brandt is the draft. The former vice president of player personnel for the Cowboys (1960-89) was responsible for evaluating and drafting several hall of famers in his career.

For the last eight years he has been a draft expert and personnel guru for For the purposes of Tuesday's ACC story, he shared with us some exclusive statistics regarding the conference's strength in NFL war rooms. Since 2000, the ACC is second only to the SEC in total number of players drafted. Highlighting that is a stat Brandt calls a "value index". He assigns a number for each player drafted. For example ...

Schools get 10 points for each player drafted in the top 10; 11 through 30, eight points; 31-60, six points; 61-100, four points; 101-150, two points; 150-plus, one point. Here is the ACC's individual players drafted and value index from 2001-2010 ...

Miami, 62 players drafted/215 VI; Florida State, 51/149; Virginia Tech, 47/106; Virginia, 29/73; Maryland, 26/73; North Carolina State, 27/72; Clemson, 29/70; North Carolina 27/63; BC, 19/58; Georgia Tech, 22/55; Wake Forest, 16/36; Duke, 1/1.

Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest, Florida State and Maryland won ACC titles in those 10 years.

This is where it gets even more interesting for the ACC in the butt-kicking draft department ...

--From 2001-2010, seven current ACC teams are in the top 26 in Brandt's value index: 1. Miami; 6. Florida State; 12. Virginia Tech; T22. Virginia; Maryland; 24. NC State; 25. Clemson.

The top three probably aren't a surprise but certainly Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina State and Clemson being in the mix raises some eyebrows. During that time Virginia produced the likes of Heath Miller (30th overall, 2005), D'Brickashaw Ferguson (fourth overall, 2006), Chris Long (second overall, 2008) and Eugene Moore (eighth overall, 2009). Maryland notables included E.J. Henderson (second round, 2003), Shawne Merriman (12th overall, 2005), Vernon Davis (sixth overall, 2006) and Darius Heyward-Bey (seventh overall, 2009). NC State draft highlights include Philip Rivers (fourth overall, 2004) and Mario Williams (first overall, 2006). In 2006, the Pack had three total first-round picks. Clemson had Gaines Adams (fourth overall, 2007) and C.J. Spiller (ninth overall, 2010). 

--From 2000-2009, 31 schools have produced 50.8 percent of all selections, essentially a quarter of Division I-A. ACC schools finished second (Miami), fourth (Florida State), ninth (Virginia Tech) and 26th (Virginia) in total picks.

--In that same span, 14 schools produced 56 percent of the top 10 picks. Miami, Florida State, Virginia and NC State are among that group.

--Nineteen schools produced 61 percent of the top 30 draftees. The ACC finished first (Miami), fourth (Florida State) and 16th (Boston College).

--Twenty schools produced 53.3 percent of the top 60 draftees. The ACC finished first (Miami), fourth (Florida State), 14th (Virginia Tech) and 15th (BC).

--Twenty-two schools produced more than half (50.7 percent) of the top 100 picks. The ACC finished first (Miami), fourth (Florida State), 15th (Virginia Tech) and 17th (Maryland).

What does all this mean? The three newest ACC members (Miami, Boston College and Virginia Tech) haven't added much in terms in pro talent compared to their previous accomplishments. A large portion of Miami's numbers above came before it joined the ACC in 2004. From 2005 through 2010, Miami has averaged 4.5 draftees per year and has only six first-rounders (none since 2008). From 1999-2004, Miami averaged 7.18 draftees and had a staggering 21 first-rounders. Boston College post-expansion: 1.83 draftees per year; pre-expansion, 2.33. Virginia Tech, has seen its NFL production increase only slightly since joining the league -- 29 drafted from 2005-2010, 25 drafted from 1999-2004. 

--Another strange stat courtesy of the ACC. Through 2010, the conference leads the NFL in linebackers (including those on injured reserve, practice squads and physically unable to perform lists.)

1. ACC, 53; 2. Big Ten, 49; 3. SEC, 46; 4. Big 12, 35; 5. Pac-10, 31; 6. Mountain West, 20; 7. Big East, 17; 8. WAC, 8; 9. Sun Belt, 7; 10. MAC, 6; 11. Conference USA, 5. 






Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: February 10, 2011 9:35 am

Why the NFL loves the ACC

 Forget the 'draft' in determining where NFL players come from. Getting drafted doesn't mean you'll be an NFL player. Making an NFL roster means you're an NFL player..............and hundreds of genuine NFL players were not drafted.

 Also, when noting where NFL players come from ( conferences, teams ) figure in the per capita factor.....players per conference member.

 For example, the 2010 opening day NFL 53 man active roster count revealed :

 SEC - 22.4 per
 B10 - 19.7 "
 P10 - 19.1 "

.....and it varies year by year. For example :

ACC - 21.33 per
SEC  - 21.08 "
B10 - 20.09 "

B10 - 18.91 per
P10 - 18.8  "
SEC - 18.0  "

Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: February 8, 2011 9:49 pm

Why the NFL loves the ACC

I think the key to the article is that Dodd is a dumba$$ and nothing he writes should be given any real consideration.  After all, this is the guy who advocates breaking federal laws for the sake of gaining information.

Since: Jan 25, 2010
Posted on: February 8, 2011 8:12 pm

Why the NFL loves the ACC

You can use your theory down the line.  How about the QB from USC, Leinhardt.  He has been great, right?  How about the guy who is a starting QB, Shauan Hill - Terps, I think drafted in 3rd 4th round.

I think key to article is how pros think talent is in each conference compared to conference rating. 

Since: Oct 26, 2009
Posted on: February 8, 2011 7:46 pm

Why the NFL loves the ACC

So according to your statistical method, Ryan Leaf was worth 10 points to his college team because of his first round draft status.  I think he was worth 10 dollars to San Diego.  Just because a team has players drafted doesn't mean they are worth anything in the NFL.  Seems to me there were quite a few Gators cut from rosters this does the formula have an allowance to adjust for players who were drafted but not worth keeping?

Since: Jan 1, 2007
Posted on: February 8, 2011 7:42 pm

Why the NFL loves the ACC

I love these kinds of statistical breakdowns.  For many years, I've been puzzled by the media's apparent "Love Affair" with the Big Ten.  No doubt, they've produced some quality pros.  But not really in line with their apparently perennial high 'ratings'.  On the other hand, I never get 'over-dosed' on plaudits for the ACC.  Moise Fokou needs to improve for the Eagles.  But I think he will.  And he's a Maryland guy, if I am not mistaken.  And what -?  A linebacker..........

Since: Mar 22, 2008
Posted on: February 8, 2011 7:18 pm

Why the NFL loves the ACC

yeah yeah yeah daffy dodd, BUT if want to go to a superbowl you better draft a big ten or sec player.

but how about daffy dodd, oh what a surprise? but not to the fans of this conf....the big ten has a representative from every team in the super bowl this year. the acc...not so much

The big ten is the only conference to feature at least one player from every team in this super bowl. the big ten and the sec (20 players) are the only conferences with 18 or more players on the the two super bowl squads, followed by the acc (14), big 12 (13), MAC (13) and pac ten (10).

the world champion packers have 8 former big ten players from 6 different schools on their roster, including 6 standouts on their active roster including rookie iowa hawkeye offensive tackle bryan bulaga and cornerback supreme charles woodson.
nine assistant coaches with big ten ties in the super bowl, including 5 from the green bay staff and 4 from the pittsburgh staff. the packers offensive and defensive coordinators are both linked to big ten schools, offensive coordinator joe philbin was an assistant coach at iowa from 1999-2002...yes under that crap coach you want to fire daffy dood...kirk ferentz. the defensive coordinator dom capers was an assistant at ohio state in the 80s. also pittsburghs defensive coordinator dick laBeau played at ohio state from 1956-58

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