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Inside Cam's eligibility

Posted on: December 1, 2010 4:44 pm
Edited on: December 1, 2010 5:20 pm
 

Did the NCAA do Mike Slive a favor?

Certainly, tacitly.

Start with the timing of Wednesday's announcement that Cam Newton had been reinstated by the NCAA and was eligible to play. Curiously, it came three days before the SEC championship putting a nice, neat bow on a slimy case that had been ongoing for a month. It helps everyone -- Auburn, the NCAA and the SEC -- that this case is "resolved" before the biggest TV show on the SEC calendar.

The obvious attempt at a publicity grab helps everyone who was in line to be helped. The NCAA was being criticized for dragging its feet. There was a perception that Auburn was a rogue operation. The SEC and Slive, the commissioner, was taking heat for what it knew and when in the Cam case. Mississippi State is the whistle blower. Folks were starting to write how they would not vote Newton for Heisman. CBS couldn't help but mentioning the case on its telecasts.

"Honestly, it is a major story in college football and has to be covered fully," Sean McManus, president of CBS News and Sports, said this week.

There was, then, lingering embarrassment all around. That's why this was a bit of a grandstand move and, to me, still an unresolved case. 

"There are hundreds of cases each year where schools go to the NCAA an self-report a violation," said a source with intimate knowledge of the NCAA process. "If nobody knows about it, the NCAA reinstates the athlete and they don't make announcements. It's obviously because this was high profile and they want to try and put this thing to rest."

"It is interesting," said Doug Zeit, attorney for former Mississippi State player Kenny Rogers who was part of Wednesday's NCAA statement, "[this happened] three days before the championship."

We got our Cam back. We got our villain, his father Cecil. We got our co-conspirator. The NCAA said Cecil collaborated Rogers in a "pay-for-play scenario." The NCAA doesn't actually use names but when Slive added his own admonishment we knew who everyone was talking about.

"The conduct of Cam Newton's father and the involved individual is unacceptable and has no place in the SEC or in intercollegiate athletics," Slive said.

The NCAA cited a bylaw that applied to the case (12.3.3). It states that, "Any individual, agency or organization that represents a prospective student-athlete for compensation in placing the prospective student-athlete in a collegiate institution [getting] financial aid shall be considered an agent ..."

That seems to label Cecil who now will have limited access to Auburn athletics. What that means no one seems to know. Maybe Cecil can't become a financial advisor within 100 feet of Jordan-Hare Stadium. But what about Cam reportedly telling a Mississippi State recruiter that "the money was too much" at Auburn? Wednesday's release seems to let Auburn off the hook, but you have to read between the lines. Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president for academic and membership affairs said, " ... at this time we do not have sufficient evidence that Cam Newton or anyone from Auburn was aware of this activity ..." (Emphasis added).

That should tell you the case is not over, but for the purposes of Saturday's SEC championship game it's game on. As for the bowl game? Check back with the NCAA later. This story isn't going to die after Saturday.

The bylaw (12.3.3) seems to clears up the NCAA interpretation of this case. A couple of weeks ago a lot of us were breathless over the apparent NCAA bylaw that applied to this case. It turns out the case probably revealed a gap in NCAA legislation. In essence, the NCAA had to find a bylaw that best fit the "crime," -- a parent soliciting money for his son's services without the son's knowledge.

However, the NCAA concluded that neither "Newton or anyone from Auburn was aware of this activity, which led to this reinstatement."

"I think the NCAA is trying to say, 'We found a violation so we're going to put this on the father and Kenny Rogers because they were acting as agents," the source said. "The violation occurs when the prospect agrees to be represented by them. [Cam] didn't know anything about it. My argument would be there hasn't been a violation here."

On that confusing basis, Newton was allowed to regain his eligibility. It also gives the deniability excuse to any kid who is ever shopped by his parents, uncle or handler. That's why the NCAA is working hard as I type on a new bylaw to close this loophole.

This story started with Rogers who apparently will not go quietly. Rogers, who runs a scouting service in Chicago, was reported to have sought $180,000-$200,000 from Mississippi State for Cam's services. The school on Wednesday "disassociated" Rogers. However, Rogers was not found to have been a representative of the university's athletic interests in the letter sent to him by the school. So what exactly did Rogers do wrong? 

"This is like a knife in his heart," Zeit said. "This is his alma mater. For them to suggest this is beyond the pale but not surprising ... He never solicited any money. That is patently false."

Zeit said Rogers will consider his legal options including defamation suits against "media outlets" and "people from Mississippi State."


Another reason to believe this isn't over: Check this second-to-the-last sentence in Wednesday's release -- The reinstatement process is likely to conclude prior to the close of an investigation.

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Comments

Since: Feb 22, 2010
Posted on: December 3, 2010 10:10 am
 

Inside Cam's eligibility

If ANY one had ANY thing substantive on Cam Newton OR Auburn at this point (remember, the NCAA has had this since September!!!), they most certainly would have taken action.

You have got to be kidding?  You don't really believe that, do you?  Roger Clemens testified before Congress--under oath, mind you, not just dropping in for a fun conversation--in February of 2008 and doesn't get indicted for lying to Congress until August of 2010.  And I know the NCAA is pretty powerful, but it's not as powerful as the Federal Government and it doesn't have subpoena power.  And yet, it took the Feds 2 1/2 years before they indicted Clemens.  So, any claim or belief this thing is over is just crazy.  But keep telling yourself that.

And saying this isn't over is not saying the NCAA will eventually come down on Cam Newton.  Maybe they will.  Maybe they won't.  Newton has much better plausible deniability than Reggie Bush ever did.  Someone will probably have to squeal in order for the NCAA to go forward.  His story of not knowing might not be the most believable one in the world, but unless the NCAA has something at least half-way decent contradicting the story, I doubt they can do anything.  And this will not proceed swiftly.  Look how long Bush's case dragged on.

I am a fan of college football first.  Hawkeyes second.  Raving idiots, last.

This story breaks. You sign up yesterday.  You've made 2 posts.  Both on this thread, which is about Auburn and Cam Newton. Yessiree, you do love your Hawkeyes.  LOL 



Since: Dec 2, 2010
Posted on: December 3, 2010 9:27 am
 

Inside Cam's eligibility

If ANY one had ANY thing substantive on Cam Newton OR Auburn at this point (remember, the NCAA has had this since September!!!), they most certainly would have taken action.

The NCAA has clearly shown that they have no tolerance for these activities, and this case is pretty transparent, according to all REAL authorities on the matter.

Pay NO attention to all of the B level Sports Talkies that just want to feel the Schodenfreuda excitement and think they are providing us with good journalism OR opinion. 

Pay attention to the NCAA only.

And, the NCAA, after a fine tooth comb and with ALL of the evidence in, says - "Play, Cam."

They are NOT likely to permit another incident especically on the heels of such an embarassment in the USC case.  Cam will not have to become a Kar-Dash-Ian's little bitch to gain self-validation either. 

I am a fan of college football first.  Hawkeyes second.  Raving idiots, last.

Pay attention people.  Read the real news, and stop paying attention to these writers (shame, shame, again, Dodd) that practice bad journalism to try to raise their own lacklustre game.



Since: Oct 12, 2010
Posted on: December 2, 2010 7:31 pm
 

Inside Cam's eligibility

leave it to a UGA fan to sticks his dawgass nose where it doesn't belong!! Go sniff some butts mutt! 



Since: May 4, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2010 6:06 pm
 

Inside Cam's eligibility

If the FBI can't prove anything, how is the NCAA supposed to punish this guy? Really, you people are so petty and jealous.




Since: May 4, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2010 6:02 pm
 

Inside Cam's eligibility

Who cares if college players get paid really? I like Cam Newton. Go War Cam Eagles!



Since: Dec 2, 2010
Posted on: December 2, 2010 5:40 pm
 

Inside Cam's eligibility

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Priority="32" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Intense Reference"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="33" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Book Title"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="37" Name="Bibliography"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="39" QFormat="true" Name="TOC Heading"/> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]-->The citation of the rule is interesting however, it isn't the complete story. The NCAA (and SEC for this specific rule) surround those rules with a process to interpret the rules, assess penalties, provide for appeal, and revision of the rulings. For example, the SEC rule book may even contain a provision that gives the SEC complete discression to accept the NCAA penalties in lieu of SEC penalities or impose additional penalties if deemed necessary.

In other words, mitigating circumstances can increase or decrease the penalty imposed at the NCAA's discretion.

Any intelligent thoughts on what the mitigating circumstances might be in this case?

By the way - I don't buy that its a money decision - I think a TCU NC could be easily promoted and very lucrative - the NC is not about fans in the stadium.

Anybody ever wonder why the price was either $100K or $180K?

Side note: If I recall the flying incident was with regard to an agent hosting a parting in Miami where numerous schools were implicated - UNC (ACC) was hit hard. Wasn't about half the team ruled ineligible. 





Since: Sep 6, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2010 4:42 pm
 

Inside Cam's eligibility

Which UGA player flew to Florida and partied with agents...think you have your schools messed up.  We had a player sell a jersy for $1000 on ebay and was suspended 4 games.  Leave it to an allbarn fan to get his stories mixed up...just like Cam and Cecil



Since: Jul 28, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2010 4:06 pm
 

Inside Cam's eligibility

Arkansas should seek an immediate injunction to halt the play of the SECCG for a legal decision on Cam Newton's eligibility to play an intercollegiate sport in the SEC, under the bylaws of the conference. 


mmmmm......let me see......I am sure ARKANSAS is gonna just go and do that...I think they are more occupied with staying focused on the Sugar Bowl and hoping AUBURN wins this weekend. Nice try though.....A for effort.Laughing



Since: Oct 12, 2010
Posted on: December 2, 2010 4:05 pm
 

Inside Cam's eligibility

UGAparrothead...Give me a fking break!!! YOU have way too much free time on your hands! And you guys are ones to talk. You got players flying down to Miami partying it up with agents! Cam Newton is eligible according the NCAA rules which is all that matters. I don't think the SEC, Arkansas, or the NCAA need your advice in the matter. 



Since: Oct 12, 2010
Posted on: December 2, 2010 3:59 pm
 

Inside Cam's eligibility

There is no record of Cam saying the money is better at Auburn. That is what someone at MSU said he said but there is NO record that that conversation happened. 


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