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Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Posted on: November 12, 2010 1:33 pm
 
There are now at least three people on the record saying they have knowledge of Cecil Newton soliciting money for his son Cameron to attend Mississippi State.

There is a lot of stuff out there right now about Newton being ineligible at the moment at Auburn. Not entirely true, according to information received Friday from the NCAA.

My question to the NCAA: If a person related to a prospective student-athlete solicits money for that student-athlete at a certain school then that student-athlete is ineligible. Is that true no matter where he signs?

This e-mail came back from NCAA spokesperson Stacey Osburn: Generally speaking, eligibility issues are tied to the student-athlete, not the school. So if a student-athlete is ineligible at one school and then transfers to a second school, the school the student-athlete transferred to would need to seek reinstatement.

I then reiterated my question saying a "prospective" student-athlete -- in other words a recruit -- not a "transfer".

Osburn came back with: Correct.

USA Today
got much the same response when it asked a similar question of Osburn.

In Friday's editions the paper stated, "Even if Newton received no money to attend Auburn, soliciting money can be an NCAA violation jeopardizing Newton's eligibility."

To me, all this means that Cam Newton isn't a slam dunk to be found ineligible at Auburn as some seem to think at this point. It doesn't look good, I'll give you that, but consider the Albert Means case. The former five-star Memphis prospect was being shopped around by his high school coach Lynn Lang. Means committed to Alabama, but ended up playing at Memphis. I suspect the fact that it was his coach and not a family member, that was a mitigating circumstance.

In this case ...  

1) First, it has to be proven that Newton's father was asking for money at Mississippi State. We're not there yet but as mentioned, at least three folks say he did.

2) Second, it has be determined whether Cecil Newton asked anyone at Auburn for money. If he did, whether Cameron knew or not, that pretty much seals the deal.

3) If Cecil Newton didn't ask Auburn, then we're back to Osburn's "generally speaking" response that the eligibility issues would be tied to the student-athlete. In other words, Newton could be ineligible at Auburn but it is not certain.

Here is the NCAA bylaw (10.1 unethical conduct) that seems to govern this situation ...

 
Unethical conduct by a prospective or enrolled student-athlete or a current or former institutional staff member
(e.g., coach, professor, tutor, teaching assistant, student manager, student trainer) may include, but is not limited
to, the following: 
 
(a) Refusal to furnish information relevant to an investigation of a possible violation of an NCAA regulation
when requested to do so by the NCAA or the individual’s institution;
 
(b) Knowing involvement in arranging for fraudulent academic credit or false transcripts for a prospective or an
enrolled student-athlete;
 
(c) Knowing involvement in offering or providing a prospective or an enrolled student-athlete an improper inducement
or extra benefit or improper financial aid; (Revised: 1/9/96)
 
(d) Knowingly furnishing or knowingly influencing others to furnish the NCAA or the individual’s institution false or misleading information ...
 
 
Violations of 10.1 are enforced as follows:
 
10.4 Disciplinary Action
 
Prospective or enrolled student-athletes found in violation of the provisions of this regulation shall be ineligible
for further intercollegiate competition, subject to appeal to the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for
restoration of eligibility.




Obviously, Auburn is comfortable enough to put the quarterback on the field. Auburn coach Gene Chizik said this week that Newton will start against Georgia.

 
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Comments

Since: Nov 25, 2010
Posted on: November 25, 2010 6:53 pm
 

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

--Okay For One thing This is very Disrespetful & I for one thing dont appreciate it ! You Don't know Him or his FATHER ?
You dont know them so for you to say something about them pisses me off because for one thing him and his father has good hearts
and Cameron Newton is going some where unlike you in which you may just be sitting your ass down wanting to ruin people LIVES !
GROW THE FUCK UP ! Because that Is Just Childish ! Enough said ! :)



Since: Apr 25, 2007
Posted on: November 14, 2010 11:27 pm
 

This season is now forfeit

I just sent $1.00 to every starting player at every automatic qualifying BCS school for their exceptional play this year. I appreciate what they have done this year and have decided to pay each and every one them.

Now it has to be a TCU vs. Boise St title game because all of the AQ schools are ineligible. Well actually, I guess Notre Dame would have a good arguement for being in the title game because they just won all of their games by default.



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: November 14, 2010 1:22 pm
 

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Well, it was proven he had a stolen laptop, and he cheated on his tests. So your point is NULL. Lamichael James did screw up, and sat a game for it, and the school didn't hide it. Yes, not schocked to see this going on. You do realize before 2002 the SEC was widely and openly considered the dirties conference in college footbal. What was worse, is they all ratted eachother out all the time. Cam and his father are pieces of sh!t. His dad is teaching his son that he is entitled to money based on potential. Don't earn it, it should be given to you. Nice life lesson there pops. And Cam is just your usual athlete with entitlement issue because he was raised like crap. You're an Auburn fan in the middle of a NC hunt, I know this sucks. I'd be just like you if it happened to the Buckeyes, but facts are facts man.



Since: Nov 14, 2010
Posted on: November 14, 2010 2:17 am
 

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

What you fail to mention is the fact that most stories on this topic make it clear that Cecil Newton is behind it and not Cam. Also the evidence is pretty clear after Cecil admitted to asking for money from MSU. It is very unfortunate that this young mans father had to put his sons career in jeopardy for his own selfish gains but that IS what happened.



Since: Nov 13, 2010
Posted on: November 13, 2010 2:59 pm
 

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

My above comment is in direct response to the comment COACHK61 posted!!



Since: Nov 13, 2010
Posted on: November 13, 2010 2:57 pm
 

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

To AUNICK,

I enjoyed reading your article and agree with you wholeheartedly.
Thank you for sharing!!



Since: Nov 13, 2010
Posted on: November 13, 2010 2:44 pm
 

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Please get your facts correct!!
Cameron did not steal anything while he was at Fla, he purchased a laptop, which was later determined to be stolen!!

Regarding all the recent allegations, the Law states that everyone, including Cameron, is innocent until proven guilty - and it has not been proven that he is guilty in ten months...no shred of hard evidence at all and doubt that there ever will be!
It is pathetic little men who are jealous of his success, attempting to blacken his character. I very much doubt that there ever will be any hard evidence and hope all the "little men" are exposed for the scum they are!!



Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2010 10:28 am
 

Newton, Mullen and Spite!

Todays media has become judge and jury for many people in many different situations.  Sometimes the media gets it right and many time they dont.  But almost always there is manipulation to the story in an attempt to make something more dramatic and ugly, which always attracts more readers or viewers.  Let's face it, our country loves a story about someone doing something wrong and rarely do we see stories about people doing something right or heroic.  We live in an ambulance chaser society!  The Cam Newton story is no different.

Cam Newton made his mistakes and will probably make more.  I think thats safe to say about almost everyone, but Cam's mistakes are making big news.  As it is being reported, Cam made mistakes with his class paper at the University of Florida by having someone else write it then coming back with another that was alleged to have been taken off the internet.  He recently admitted to have purchased a laptop knowing that there was a high probability it was stolen because of how cheap it was.  But he could not confirm it then and made the decision to purchase it anyways.  Was that a mistake, of course it was.  He was later arrested for that purchase but was never arraigned or charged as the case was Nolle Processed.  After realizing that Tim Tebow was coming back for another season, combined with his academic problems, Cam made the decision to start over somewhere else.  Some point their finger at him over all this and will find him guilty in any future accusation no matter what the truth is and that is sad.  Those people should be ashamed of themselves for judging him today over unrelated issues because of prior mistakes made years ago.  If he paid his dues and he is no longer under fire from the school or the law in Florida, then let the young man move on!

At UF, Cam was recruited by and signed to play under Offensive Coordinator Dan Mullen. This was Mullen's prize recruit and claim to fame in the recruiting world of college football.  Soon after Cam left Florida, so did Mullen where he took the coaching job at Mississippi State.  Sources claim that bringing his former prize recruit to MSU was yet again one of the promises by Mullen when he took the job.  Cam was at that time headed to Texas to play for Blinn College where he would later lead them to their league championship.  In the winter of 2010, Cam became eligible to play at the FBS level which includes MSU.  Many schools, including Auburn and Oklahoma were heavily recruiting Cam as well. 

Auburn University won Cam Newton over and he signed the letter of intent to play on the plains.  MSU and Mullen were still going after Cam even after he committed to Auburn.  This was Mullen's big recruit after all and how dare he not come to MSU!  Anyone in Mullen's shoes then would be upset with Cam's decision and most would be filled with spite. 

 

 

Cam Newton went on to play like a man among boys for Auburn University and by the first week of November 2010, he was clearly the front runner for the Heisman Trophy and leading his #2 ranked team in the hunt for a BCS National Championship.  He was everywhere in the news and was on top of the college football world just months after rejecting MSU and Dan Mullen.  Considering MSU was having a good year, it would have been a much better year with Cam taking the snaps. Maybe Mullen viewed his team equal to Auburn's team, minus Cam Newton.  One thing is for sure, Cam took Auburn to a whole new level and most likely would have at MSU as well.  I am also sure Mullen did not look that good to the trustees at MSU after losing the prize recruit.

With Cam on top of the college football world, news reports started to come out pointing to recruiting corruption at MSU.  And boy how the media has grabbed onto this and made this headline news all day, every day.  The source, Mr. Kenny Rogers, is a former MSU player and is the so called "whistle blower" to the allegations.  Here is an interview written exactly as it was said from November 11, 2010 with 103.3 FM ESPN Dallas:

Rogers:  Mr. Newton pretty much said…you know…it’s not going to be…he didn’t say these exact words, because I can’t remember it but it isn’t going to be free this time.

What I can say is on November 27th, me, Mr. Newton and two coaches were sitting at the Hilton Garden Inn in Starkeville.  And I really can’t remember how Mr. Newton stated this, but what…however he said it, one of the coaches was like “No No, I don’t want to hear that!  Don’t don’t don’t hear that!”  As if money was brought up or it was going to take money to get him.  I cant really remember so I am not going to just sit here and say I remember what was said!

REPORTER:  Did he ever tell you, flat out, this is what it is going to take for any school to get my son to go sign a letter of intent to go play for them?

ROGERS:  Yes he did! 

REPORTER: How much was it?

ROGERS:  Anywhere between a 100 and 180 thousand.  Basically to get his son.

These are the exact words of Mr. Rogers and without having a copy of the official claim filed with the NCAA and the SEC back in January of 2010, this is the closest we can get to his statement.  To me I see many issues with this statement and see a man who really does not remember what was said.  He even stated that he "can't sit there and say (he) remembers what was said."  But then in the very next statement claim exactly how much money was discussed. You better believe that does not make any sense.

Mr. Rogers has also been reported to have claimed he was on the phone with both Cam and on another call with his father who both asked for money.  But how credible is this without any evidence?  To make things worse, Rogers claims this occured prior to his reporting everything to the NCAA and the SEC but yet never reported these phone calls to them when he did.  This was confirmed by the NCAA on Novemeber 11th.  But why?  Was this just made up to add fuel to the fire or are we supposed to believe he forgot about those alleged phone calls when he reported it to them?  Rogers also is reporting that the FBI has contacted him for an interview.  Is this fact?  Not sure.  But it hasnt kept the media from issuing all sorts of related headlines about the FBI's involvement.  Rogers only stated they were investigating him, not Newton.  Personally, I hope they are because the NCAA and the SEC is not doing much to end this.  If there is evidence, then get the kid out of there.  If there is not, then say so and let the kid play without all this over his head.  They have been investigating this now for 10 months and considering that time length, it appears there really is nothing credible or any evidence to support these claims.

 

In regards to the University of Florida issues and the illegal disclosure of Cam's academic records to the media, Head Coach Urban Meyer has claimed that he nor his staff made the leak.  And I believe him.  But who else was around UF and Cam Newton in those days who might have an ax to grind with Cam?  Maybe Meyer's was telling the truth in that his (current) staff has not leaked anything.  Maybe it was someone on the staff then!  Maybe someone with spite in their heart, especially after watching Cam become a super star in the college football world.

 

 

 

The Heisman Trophy is now a concern for Cam because of all this drama. Sports commentators and Heisman voters are starting to become more suspicious of the Newtons because they arent fighting back as much as they would want to see them fighting back.  I wonder if they were ever accused of something so big and newsworthy as the Newton's are?  Do they know how they would respond?  There are serious legal accusations and it would be very easy for the media to twist words.  How do they know they are not cooperating with investigations?   

 

Folks, this all comes back to not rushing to judgement and letting the facts or evidence speak for themselves. And so far there are none.  We can not assume anything or cast prejudice feelings towards someone just because there are rumors and hearsay out there against someone.  Did Mr. Newton ask for money?  Maybe, no one knows for sure.  But what we do know is that both Oklahoma and Auburn claimed they were never asked for money and neither are under investigation.  We know that the reports are based only on someone's word which we now know is not very believable.  We can only go by what is fact and supported with evidence.  We can not allow this power of the media to continue in playing judge and jury with people's lives.  

 

There is a young man's character at risk here and none of us should be rushing to judgement on him or anyone else without evidence.  It is that simple.  Let the investigation play out and hope it is a thorough and fair investigation.

 

(Article I wrote Yesterday I thought I would share)  God Bless!




Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: November 13, 2010 10:20 am
 

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

How is he guilty by association? PROVE IT!  You are assuming everything is true and going with it without any evidence.  None.  So someone reported it, so lets punish the kid.  Are you joking?   Anyone can report anything they want.  Should we jump on every accusation out there and punish folks right away?  

Yes, it appears Cam had some academic problems at Florida.  And it is proven that he bought a stolen laptop, then tried to get rid of it once he knew the police were investigating that purchase.  But he was arrested for it and he paid his dues when it comes to this unlawful act.  And if Florida is not still chasing Cam for anything wrong he did in school, then who are you to judge him?  He paid his dues but you want to make him this lifetime criminal guilty of anything anyone says about him.  Pathetic in all definition of the word.  I wonder if I track you, find out who you are and report you as a child molestor, how you would feel? I mean, by your logic, you are guilty!  Right?  Or should I have to show some form of evidence to support my claim?

Also, Bush did not have to return the trophy.  He did it on his own.  And no, I am anything but a USC fan, but the facts are the facts.

 



Since: Dec 27, 2007
Posted on: November 13, 2010 10:09 am
 

Cameron Newton's eligibility issues

Cam Newton is guilty by association at the least. If has been reported his dad did make an offer, then he should be immediately suspended and his college football career should be terminated. Cam can go onto the NFL get his money and be the back-up QB he was meant to be. Maybe oakland will draft him to replace their former star who has been a pedestrian QB in the NFL.


This kid is far from innocent. It has been reported he cheated on tests, stole a laptop and now this. I'm sure Auburn fans want to turn-a-blind -eye, and I can't blame them. They are in a position to win a BCS title and without Newton, they're toast. However, the evidence is mounting and where there is smoke there is fire. USC fans did the same with Bush and looked what happened there.


I'm sure we'll get the bleeding hearts and apologists telling us how evil the system is. That's too easy. The overwhelming majority of real student athletes follow the rules and are successful. No one should make excuses for those who willingly try to circumvent the system. That doesn't lead to real reform, but rather is just a lame excuse to justify their deeds.


Cam Newton is having a monster season. On the field he's Heisman worthy. However, off of it he's not. IMO he shouldn't win the trophy because odds are like Bush he'll have to return it. There are plenty of players who deserve it this year. Kellen Moore, LaMichael James, Andy Dalton and Andrew Luck are just a few names who are deserving. Hopefully, the voters will take into the account the fact another scandal could tarnish this award even more. Do the right thing and vote for someone else.


In the end Newton's year will make him a multi-millionaire. I don't have one iota of sympathy for the situation he's in. He used the system as much and it used him. In the end, he'll be paid to play on Sundays and quite handsomely to boot. Boo hoo.


The SEC should step in and suspend him. Auburn is standing by him and that's understandable. The coach said the right things. If they throw him under the bus, recruits will see that and it will hurt them in recreuiting against 'Bama, Florida, Georgia, LSU and others. That's why the conference needs to be the bad guy. All eyes are on them.



This situation isn't sad. Sad is when someone gets ill, injured or dies. This situation is the doing of his family and Cam. They are responsible for their actions and need to be held accountable. It's not sad, but rather pathetic.


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