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Big Ten booted it

Posted on: September 1, 2010 8:22 pm
Edited on: September 2, 2010 11:34 am
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Congratulations Mr. and Mrs. Big Ten. You got your way.

There's a bold, bright world out there beyond your Saturday tailgate full of Yuenglings, Leinenkugels and Rust Belt pride. Your conference chose to ignore it. The core issue in Big Ten divisional alignment was Michigan-Ohio State.

If one of those games was good, two was better. Still is. The problem is that tradition won out over that bold, bright world. "The Game" will remain on the last Saturday in November, diminishing the chances for a rematch in the championship game. That essentially negates the fact that the Big Ten's two biggest franchises will compete in opposite divisions -- as yet unnamed.

Commissioner Jim Delany harkened back to the epic 2006 game.  On the weekend that Bo Schembechler died, Ohio State beat Michigan 42-39 at The Shoe. The Wolverines remained No. 2 in the BCS for while creating the possibility for a BCS title game rematch. Then UCLA beat USC and Florida played Ohio State for the national championship.

In 2003, Oklahoma actually lost by four touchdowns to Kansas State in the Big 12 championship game and still played LSU in the BCS title game. So miracles can happen late but what Delany was referring to still remains 100-year flood type stuff. In other  words, don't count on a rematch.

In fact, it's more likely the Ohio State-Michigan loser misses out on a BCS bowl. Try getting beat twice in a row by the same opponent. Sure, they could still win their divisions and meet again the next week in the championship game, but it isn't likely. There just isn't much room for error. Look at the SEC and Big 12, the major conferences that have played a championship game the longest. Combined, there have been only 11 of 32 regular-season rematches (34 percent) in those two leagues. Few, if any of those rematches, were played within two weeks of each  other.

The Michigan-Ohio State loser is going to need a cushion. Twenty-six of the 36 SEC divisions races since 1992 have ended in ties or the combatants were within one game of each other. You don't want that to be a factor on the last day of the regular season.
 

Some of you will celebrate the preservation of the sanctity of the last Saturday in November. But something is going to be missing. "The Game" is not going to be for the Rose Bowl ever again. Oh, it could eventually lead to a Rose Bowl, or a national championship, but it won't be that end-all, be-all.

 There was discussion, Delany said, of moving Ohio State-Michigan to earlier in November. That would have at least created a better possibility for a rematch. The loser would have at least had a chance to "rehab" itself by winning out over the next month. Do-or-die on the last Saturday in November makes it mostly die for the loser.

What's wrong with building excitement? Big Ten isn't suffering for bucks but a second such game would have made the first look like a preliminary. Big crowd, big TV, big hype. The conference is used to that but slowly inexorably, there is going to be change. Delany talked of rebranding the conference in the next 90 days. There will be a new logo. Maybe that will create a stir because this didn't. Not for me.

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huskermav
Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: September 4, 2010 12:34 pm
 

Big Ten booted it

I just read that PSU and Nebraska have an annual rivalry, so I guess Wisconsin won't be on the Huskers schedule very often.  Okay.  I'm just going to come out and say it:  This sucks.


huskermav
Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: September 4, 2010 12:30 pm
 

Big Ten booted it

As a Husker fan, I'm disappointed that the Badgers aren't in Nebraska's division.  I think both fanbases were looking forward to making that a respectful rivalry.  I also don't understand why OSU and MU aren't in the same division.  If it came down to the wire and both teams were tied, the rivalry game in the last week of the season means so much more.  Instead, now it could just be an appetizer for a rematch two weeks later.  That is pretty stupid.

Bulldog had it right.  It should be this way:
West: neb, iowa, wisconsin, minn, n'western, ill   East: osu, mich, psu, mich st, ind, purdue

Let's be honest, PSU, Iowa, and Wiscy are all real threats to win the conference right now.  This alignment makes more sense, with maybe a PSU/Nebraska rivalry put in a protected rivalry.  Now, I guess Wisconsin and Nebraska fans are left hoping we get some sort of protected out-of-division rivalry.  As long as Nebraska plays Iowa and Wiscy every year, I'll suck it up and be happy.


lakestorm
Since: Sep 2, 2010
Posted on: September 2, 2010 10:16 pm
 

Big Ten booted it

Wow, I thought I was feeling negative dissin Dodd for his columns but apparently everyone else agrees. Dodd is either really dumb or ignorant. Then again I've worked in the media for almost 25 years and perhaps CBSSportsline is brilliant by letting this guy write these columns that piss everyone off. We're all reacting to his stupid claims. What people are forgetting is that Dodd's arguement for an earlier Ohio St./Mich game was that the loser would be "inspired" to come back in the next 4 weeks to overtake the winner of The Game.

I'm an idiot for even responding to this, but Dodd, if you're reading this, I have avoided clicking on your columns. You're ratings are going down with me and I'm a pretty average sports fan. You're a smart sports fan but perhaps you need a different approach. It gets old.
 


BUCKEYE8680
Since: Jun 10, 2010
Posted on: September 2, 2010 5:08 pm
 

Big Ten booted it

Clearly this guy is drinking or something.  How is it that the timing of The Game can change the chances of them meeting again in the Big Ten Championship game?  The participants of that game are soley based on record so it doesn't matter if you lost in mid-November or late, your record is still the same.  Clearly he just wants to spout off since that's the whole basis of his argument and it clearly doesn't hold water.


irishmartini
Since: Sep 2, 2010
Posted on: September 2, 2010 4:45 pm
 

Big Ten booted it

As a fan off Big 10 football but not really any particualar team (Go Irish!) I agree the Big Ten Booted It, but think that OSU/Mich should have stayed in the same division, the stakes of playing into the Championship game are high enough (just ask Texas and OU fans!).  PSU,NEB, or IOWA vs the OSU/UM winner would be a a much more interesting game than a rematch the next week between these two.  In years when these two are truly dominant, the loser of the game would likely get a BCS berth anyways.

With the schedule as is, I was really disappointed with Wisconsin's schedule.  The quick fix would be to pair Wisconsin with Iowa as the protected cross-over.  This would have 1) protected a rivalry that was very important to fans of both schools (much more so than WISC/MINN), 2) boosted the SOS of both programs, in the event that they are good enough to win the division (and be considered for BCS bowls), and 3) provide better competitive balance overall .With PSU/NEB, and OSU/UM playing each other cross-divisionally, shouldn't WISC/IOWA be the other logical play-off?, As it is, Purdue and Minnesota have to play 4 perrential top 25 teams every year, while Wisconisin and Iowa only play 3.  I really think they missed the boat here.      


theorrs97
Since: May 7, 2010
Posted on: September 2, 2010 3:59 pm
 

Big Ten booted it

Dodd,

I can't believe you of all writers have missed the expansion implications of such a divisional alignment.  This is about money and expansion.  Think about it.  Remember the Sixteen Team Super Conferences that you wrote about earlier in the summer, this allows for the possibility. 

If and when Notre Dame joins they would be in the "Schembechler Division" with Michigan and Michigan State.  The guaranteed cross divisional rivalry would be Purdue and Notre Dame.  This would also allow for let's say a Syracuse to join the "Schembechler".

This allignment also allows for the "Grange" division to expand to the east or south .  Rutgers could join and so could either Texas/Missouri.

Remember the expansion exploration is not over, but slowed down.  This type of alignment would allow for the entire Big Ten to be relevant to the New York market.  Syracuse and Rutgers would have a guaranteed game every year. By being in opposite divisions this would make the entire conference relevant to the New York market because they would watch them play different teams.

Think about it:

Minnesota, Northwestern, Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Iowa, Notre Dame and Syracuse

Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Purdue, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers and Missouri


The Big Ten would be rolling in the proverbial cash pile.  The Big Ten wants Notre Dame and the New York Television Market.  This alignment caters to this.

Also, I put Missouri in rather than Texas, because with the bad blood between Nebraska and Texas - they have a snow balls chance in Hell of getting an invite now.  Nebraska has joined a fiercely loyal conference that will not sour their new relationship with Big Red.


Dross3667
Since: Nov 5, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 3:39 pm
 

Big Ten booted it

Dodd - you continue to amaze me. 

What make the "The Game" the game, is the fact that it has always had consequences and those consequences have often been realized.  There are no consequences when one team can dust itself off and look towards a rematch in the championship game.  An no one wants to go on and win the Big Ten Championship or even the National Championship with a Michigan (or Ohio State) loss as a scare on their record.  Moving the game up in the season makes it irrelevant.  And playing on a neutral field does not make it "The Game." 

I would have rather seen Michigan and Ohio State in the same division so that the game really ment something.  While I still think it will have a major impact on the losers ability to win a Conference Championship or a National Championship, there is the possibility that Ohio State could some day raise the crystal football at the end of the season after having lost The Game.  I cannot think of anything less satisfying.  As Woody once said ... that would be like "kissing you sister"

Dross 


shiza4236
Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 2:55 pm
 

Big Ten booted it

It would be really cool to be as stupid as Dodd is and have the job that he has. I don't want to know how he still has his job. I don't even want to think about it.


brinbjhefan
Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: September 2, 2010 1:10 pm
 

Big Ten booted it

First off Dodd, you're a moron, Anyone who doesn't rank the 'Shoe among the top 25 stadiums in college football needs to get their head examined, I bet even the biggest OSU haters would agree with me on this., and yes I'm an OSU fan. I think the Big 10 blew it by not putting OSU and Michigan in the same division, I agree with the person who thiks that there are other teams in the Big 10 besides OSU and Michigan with teams like Iowa, Michigan St. Penn St., Wisconsin, and coming soon, Nebraska, plus you have teams that are good sometimes like Illinois, Northwestern, and Purdue, Indiana usually sucks in footbal, but till a few years ago, they were good in hoops. In other words, OSU-Michigan being in the title game isn't a sure thing, especially Michigan's struggles in the last couple years. but they did do the right thing by putting OSU-Michigan the last game of the years, since it's tradition, and I'm sure my Wolverine friends agree with me on this.



blakemb
Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: September 2, 2010 12:17 pm
 

Big Ten booted it

Dodd,

you need to stick to blowing the SEC some more. None of your arguments are valid at all. Last year both Alabama & Florida played in BCS games. When Kansas St beat Oklahoma in 2003 they both played in BCS games. When Ohio State & Michigan played in 2006 for the last Big 10 game the both played in BCS games. I'm sure I could find a few more if I dig.

Thwe only thing the big10 got wrong is they should have kept them in the same divisions in my opinion. However, I do think the divisions are broken up evenly.


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