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Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten

Posted on: June 11, 2010 3:53 pm
Edited on: June 11, 2010 6:47 pm
 
LINCOLN, Neb. -- It was the worst beating Texas has taken in public in at least seven years.

That 65-13 loss to Oklahoma in 2003 was only a football game. Nebraska officials spent the better part of 40 minutes Friday putting Bevo in his place.

Nebraska didn't just leave the Big 12 for the Big Ten on Friday, it told the world why: That bully Texas. In the space of eight days, Nebraska transformed from happy member of the Big 12 to angry, rancorous new member of the Big Ten.

Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman and AD Tom Osborne both took turns hammering Texas during a comment period before the board of regents. When they got done, there was only one possible result. The regents' vote was unanimous. Nebraska is headed to the Big Ten. Unspoken: Because Texas forced it out.

The moment the news broke last week about the Pac-10's desire to take Texas and five Big 12 partners, Nebraska turned sour. Perlman, at one point, stared across a table during the Big 12 meetings at his Texas counterpart Bill Powers and asked him if he was willing to give up his media rights. In other words, start a Big 12 Network. Powers said no. At that point, Perlman knew it was over.

This league had a chance to survive seven years ago but a possible network was voted down, obviously not supported by Texas. Now, it's clear the Pac-10 is going to get Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State and Oklahoma.

Super conferences, start your engines.

The money quote from Osborne: "One school leaving a conference does not break up a conference. Two schools leaving a conference does not break up a conference. Six schools leaving a conference, breaks up a conference. We have not had a hidden agenda, we have not dealt with more than one conference."

T.O. intimated that Texas has been talking to the SEC, Big Ten and Pac-10.

It was a bad day for Texas' reputation. It was a good day for Nebraska's future.
Comments

Since: Oct 24, 2007
Posted on: June 14, 2010 3:19 pm
 

Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten

This was AFTER Missouri started publicly agitating for a change in conferences. Powers is not responsible for the Big 12 conference, but for Texas. And Texas NEVER expressed any interest in leaving. So you admit right there that it was Missouri.  Nebraska was always rumored to be a part of the Big Ten's plan, and they were automatically lumped in with Missouri when Missouri started their public outcry.  Were there any reports of Nebraska being contacted by the Big Ten or Nebraska contacting the Big Ten?!? As you say, Powers is responsible for Texas and not the Big XII.  And Perlman and Osborne are responsible for Nebraska.  They looked out for Nebraska AFTER Texas made it clear they wouldn't support Big XII controlled broadcasting rights.  So Nebraska actually did attempt to look out for the entire conference and once it became clear that Texas was only going to gain more control they decided to look out for themself.

The point is that Nebraska, in a fit of paranoia and bitterness (which you acknowledge has always been there) decided to bolt without so much as an announcement or declaration to the rest of the Big 12. Nebraska began their talks with the Big Ten 3-4 weeks ago.  These talks were never serious, but rather an open exchange of beliefs, ideals, and goals.  The Big XII meetings were 2 weeks ago, and at this time Nebraska let the Big XII know they were in discussions with the Big Ten.  So there was a 1-2 week time period when the Big XII was out of the loop.  HOLY COW!  At the Big XII meetings is when two things happened that caused Nebraska to pursue serious discussions with the Big Ten.  Texas panicked once Nebraska let them know they were talking to another conference, so Texas (and Beebe) issued their ultimatum.  Nebraska, in turn, wanted the Big XII to control all broadcasting rights which Texas quickly refused to do.  Texas was looking out for Texas and when Nebraska realized their beliefs and ideals didn't match up with Texas (and the Big XII) they decided to a stable situation that would last for the next 50-75 years (as quoted by Osborne) as opposed to the next 6 years.  I'm sorry that Nebraska is a sparcely populated state that is in a horrible position geographically.  They knew this and would havev rather abonded old Big 8 friends then let Texas continue to call the shots and flirt with others.  This would have put them at risk of ending up in the Moutnain West or Conference USA.






Since: Nov 2, 2006
Posted on: June 14, 2010 2:30 pm
 

Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten

This has to be the most ridiculous article of all-time. The Big 12 was built around paying the winning teams the most money...or the most tv appearances. Nebraska hasn't really been relevant in the past 10 years until last year. Now who's fault is that? Don't get all huffy because you (Nebraska) don't like the rules you agreed too.



Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: June 14, 2010 2:10 pm
 

Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten

According to the e-mail, Bill Powers had been in contact with the Big Ten.  If Texas was truly committed to the Big XII then why wouldn't he downplay these e-mails from the start and affirm it's commit to the conference.  Instead, he let the rumors continue to swirl, and waited until Nebraska finally had began discussions with the Big Ten to make any commitment to the Big XII.  Thus, attempting to take the blame off Texas. Why must you be disingenuous? According to the emails, which are pure speculation, Bill Powers was contacted by the Big 10. This was AFTER Missouri started publicly agitating for a change in conferences. Powers is not responsible for the Big 12 conference, but for Texas. And Texas NEVER expressed any interest in leaving.

This email was on June 4th of this year, for God's sake. Missouri and others had started this talk a loooong time before that.

From the article on the emails:

"You've known me for very long; I am not hanging back," Dodds said, according to the Associated Press. "I'm not waiting to see what other people are going to do. I'm going to know what our options are, so that's not going to change. My hope is that the Big 12 survives and you and I retire knowing it's a great conference. It's been very viable, and if it stays in place, it will continue to be very viable."

Dodds said Texas didn't start the talk about its possible departure from the Big 12.

"If we need to finish it, we'll finish it," he said. "We're going to be a player in whatever happens."

This, again, was this June. Less than a week before Nebraska and Colorado jumped ship.  Let's not mince words or get into semantics here. The point is that Nebraska, in a fit of paranoia and bitterness (which you acknowledge has always been there) decided to bolt without so much as an announcement or declaration to the rest of the Big 12. This is fine with me, but when you lay the blame at Texas' feet, you're being intellectually dishonest. If Nebraska has been butt hurt since the beginning, why is them leaving or the potential dissolution of the Big 12 Texas' fault?

It isn't. The blame lies much more squarely with Nebraska and to a lesser extent, Colorado. Two former Big 8 schools.

Think one last time about what you're saying. Powers and Dodds didn't say strongly enough that they were committed to the Big 12. Thus the fact that NU left to the Big 10 (proving they'd probably been talking for a while) is Texas' fault. That's just pathetic. Accept your share of the blame and enjoy your new place in your new conference. Blaming Texas for everything just makes you look like whiners.



Since: Oct 24, 2007
Posted on: June 14, 2010 12:52 pm
 

Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten

First it was about revenue sharing It was about revenue sharing for Missouri.  Nebraska has never been opposed to the current revenue model.  In fact, they benefit from the current model and would make less money if the Big XII had equal revenue sharing.

then Texas "shopping around" and now it's about broadcasting rights. The reason the Big 12 asked Nebraska to commit through, what was it, 2014 was that this is when the league was going to be able to negotiate a more lucrative TV contract. That's exactly the point.  It's about several things that gave the sense of instability within the league.  One school and commissioner gave an ultimatum to Nebraska.  Nebraska called theire bluff by trying to look out for the best interest of th confrence (broadcasting rights).  A lack of any common grounds within the conference had doomed it from the start 16 years ago.

That simply is not true. You can find no public or private statement on behalf of TEXAS that they were remotely interested in leaving the Big 12. According to the e-mail, Bill Powers had been in contact with the Big Ten.  If Texas was truly committed to the Big XII then why wouldn't he downplay these e-mails from the start and affirm it's commit to the conference.  Instead, he let the rumors continue to swirl, and waited until Nebraska finally had began discussions with the Big Ten to make any commitment to the Big XII.  Thus, attempting to take the blame off Texas.

But what this is really about is Nebraska's 1-7 record on the football field vs. Texas and bitterness that Osbourne felt about not being able to offer scholarships to kids who couldn't pass high school or make an SAT score high enough to get them into a JuCo. That's like saying Colorado left for the Pac 10 because they were 4-14 against Nebraska in the last 18 years.  Keep thinking that Nebraska is leaving becuse it is 1-7 against Texas.  Be proud of that as a Longhorn fan, and as a Husker fan, I'm proud that we played you close every time we played.  There were no 64-28 blowouts like Oklahoma gave us, like 70-10 schellacking Texas Tech gave us, or  65-13 katy-whomping that Oklahoma gave you guys.  Every game was a great game, and unfortunately, Texas usually ended up on the winning end.

Osborne wanted the partial qualifiers so they didn't have to go to JUCO.  What is wrong with allowing a student who is academically challenged to come and be mentored within the university system?  These players were not on scholarship until they were fully qualified.  They were not allowed to play on the football field.  They simply were allowed to practice while they worked on their education.  This got the players familiar with the system once they prove themselves in the classroom.  Do you think a college athlete is going to get a better education the first 1-2 years by going to Nebraska (or Texas or any other D1 school) or to a JUCO???  The big deal with it for Osborne was the MENTOR aspect of it.  He tried his darndest to give every player the opportunity to play football and to make them a better person.  He did this with programs such as the Unity Council, community volunteering, participation in FCA.  Occassionally, one of these players was a mistake (i.e. Lawrence Phillips), but what about all the student-athletes that benefited by receiving the opportunity?  And even with that, Osborne didn't have many partial qualifiers in his program.  Most of them were fully eligible, but that whole history was just an example of Texas having to get it's way from the start.





Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: June 14, 2010 12:23 pm
 

Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten

The Big Televen was after Texas. That was never a secret. But you said Texas was "shopping around."

That simply is not true. You can find no public or private statement on behalf of TEXAS that they were remotely interested in leaving the Big 12.  Saying that they were "shopping around" is a canard designed to deflect the blame away from Nebraska (Colorado was a money loser anyway) for destroying the conference because they couldn't have things their way.

The title of the article you linked:

Ohio State president's e-mail hints at Big Ten's pursuit of Texas


The Big 10 was pursuing Texas - IF the "hints" can be described as accurate. NOT the other way around. That's just a lie - and you still haven't proven that Texas was "shopping around" - because you can't. They weren't.

First it was about revenue sharing, then Texas "shopping around" and now it's about broadcasting rights. The reason the Big 12 asked Nebraska to commit through, what was it, 2014 was that this is when the league was going to be able to negotiate a more lucrative TV contract.

But what this is really about is Nebraska's 1-7 record on the football field vs. Texas and bitterness that Osbourne felt about not being able to offer scholarships to kids who couldn't pass high school or make an SAT score high enough to get them into a JuCo.

Good luck in the Big Televen, guys. Seriously. But don't ever forget that it was Nebraska's paranoid bitterness that led them to take their ball and go "home", effectively ruining the Big 12 without so much as a fond farewell. Osbourne just isn't professional enough for that. And all that paranoia up in Nebraska finally came to a head. Just be honest about it.




Since: Oct 24, 2007
Posted on: June 14, 2010 12:14 pm
 

Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten

Bullcaca. Show  me proof anywhere that Texas was "shopping around" especially now in light of the fact that they may be trying to salvage what's left of the Big 12. On April 20th, there was an e-mail sent between Ohio State's President and Jim Delaney regarding Texas and a "tech" problem.  The e-mail said they had been in contact with Texas' President Bill Powers.  The article was posted on CBSSports, and here's .  Tom Osborne, Harvey Perlman, and Jim Delaney all said that discussions between Nebraska and the Big Ten didn't begin until 3-4 weeks ago.  I'm not sure if I would trust that statement if it was just Perlman and/or Delaney, but I fully trust Tom Osborne.  He loved and respected the history of Nebrsaka and the old Big 8 members, but he saw that it was impossible to bring any solidarity to the conference.  Why did Nebraska only receive an ultimatum of 6 years?  Why not for 10-20 years?  And why couldn't Texas do the same thing, and allow to Big XII to control it's broadcasting rights?  Simply put, because Texas is all about Texas.  Osborne was very vocal about the Big XII becoming Texas-centric at it's onset, and he ended up being completely right.  There is a lot of blame in this entire situation.  It's not just Nebraska.  It's not just Texas.  It was not just Missouri.  The Big XII was not a good conference in terms of ideals, goals, and focus.  Sooner or later, the Big XIi was going to crumble.  Unfortunately, Nebraska and Colorado had to be the ones to get out when opportunity arose.




Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: June 14, 2010 11:27 am
 

Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten

Nebraska didn't even start discussing shopping around until 4 weeks ago when they learned that Texas and other schools were also shopping around and it became clear that nobody else was committed to the Big XII. Bullcaca. Show  me proof anywhere that Texas was "shopping around" especially now in light of the fact that they may be trying to salvage what's left of the Big 12.





Since: Sep 17, 2009
Posted on: June 14, 2010 9:31 am
 

Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten

You know charlie, you just do not have a clue.  Nebraska is not blaming Texas for leaving the Big XII.  Dr. Osborne was only pointing out that Texas can not blame Nebraska for the downfall of the Big XII.  There are strong feelings regarding the manner in which Texas influenced the rules of the Big XII as well as the re-location of the Big XII offices and the location of the Big XII Championship football game.  However, it was the fact that Texas was not willing to make the same commitment to the conference that was being asked of Nebraska.  While at the same time, Texas officials had already discussed their options of leaving the Big XII for one of three conferences.  Osborne has every right to be upset with Texas.

Bringing the College World Series into this conversation makes absoltutelyt no sense.  There are many people in the Omaha area that are big Texas fans when it comes to participation in the CWS and they will continue to support the Longhorns the next time they come to town.  (Not this year!!!)  The length of time that the CWS remains in Omaha has nothing to do with the Big XII conference, but is a decision belonging to the NCAA. 

Finally, your comment regarding tradition is way off base.  If you are referring to the new ballpark, that was a decision that was heavily influenced by the NCAA.  The Omaha community will continue to support the CWS.  Speaking of tradition, it was influence from Texas that lead to the end of the Oklahoma-Nebraska rivalry in football, by their input on conference alignment and scheduling.

Now, for any other school in the Big XII to make any negative comment regarding Nebraska's departure, there is not a school that has any room to talk.  There have been many rulings in the history of the Big XII that would have benefited most if not all of the north division schools that were voted down 11-1 because the other north schools did not want to upset Texas.

Missouri has flirted with the Big Ten for years, while Colorado has done the same with the Pac-10 (Pac-8).  thus, it is no surprise that CU made the move they did and it was just as much of a statement agains the influence of Texas as anything Nebraska did.  In the case of Missouri, the Tigers were never really as good a fit for the Big 10 as Nebraska.  The only advantage to Missouri being in the Big 10 is the addition of the Missouri side of the viewers in St. Lious and Kansas City.  In other words, TV sets.

Nebraska brings a tradition that is comparable to Michigan and Ohio State.  The coaching ties thet Nebraska has had and continues to have with the Big Ten makes it a natural fit.  This goes back to the very beginning of the resurgence of Nebraska footbal in the early 1960's with Bob Devaney.  Devaney came to NU from Wyoming, but his stop there was onyl after a life of coaching in Big 10 country and coming right from the staff of Duffy Dougherty.  Coach Devaney would be jumping for joy with this move.



Since: Oct 24, 2007
Posted on: June 14, 2010 8:07 am
 

Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten

First of all, I want someone to show me where Tom Osborne was when his clubs (along with CU and K-St) were ruling the first 4-5 years of the Big 12......why wasn't he whining the North ruled on then?? The South was irrelevant so he had nothing to whine about. Now the South rules, so Dr. Tom is going to take his ball and go home?!?  Boo frickin' hoo. Osbrone was against the Big XII from day 1.  He was against have a conference championship game.  He was against losing Oklahoma as a rival.  He was was VERY vocal about a power shift to the south.  Look what happended.  The first commisioner was not the Big 8 commisioner; it was the SWC commisioner.  The Big XII offices were moved from KC to Dallas.  The old Big 8 gave up their partial qualifer admission to listen to Texas.  The Big XII champsionship game essentially became planted in Dallas.  This wasn't something that just came up out of the blue.  T.O. knew what was going to happen and he was right.

Second, winning cures all problems. You fire a coach for winning 9 games or more (Solich), you become irrelevant under Callahan, the wheels fall off.......and suddenly that's the South's fault?!? Boo frickin' hoo. Who said it was the South's fault?  The firing of Solich was a very big deal to the Nebraska fans.  Our Chancellor (Harvey Perlman) almost got fired for the hiring of Steve Pederson and Bill Callahan.  Nebraska knows that was our own mistake, and luckily Perlman fixed it.

Third, NU has football and volleyball. Woo hoo!! Oh, I'll give you gymnastics and Larry the Cable Guy. Try becoming more well-rounded (no, one successful women's b-ball season doesn't count) and then you'll get some respect. You can't compete in other sports...once again, Boo frickin' hoo. Sorry, that's not the South's fault either.
Nebraska has the second most Big XII conference championships behind Texas.  Texas (106 championships) is a stratosphere ahead of everybody in terms of champsionships.  But Nebraska (68 championships) is also a stratoshpere head of the next highest team (Texas A&M with 44 championships).  Nebraska has been competitive in the Big XII, and we know we'er taking a risk by leaving.  Why don't you take a look at the latest Director's Cup standings.  Nebraska is currently in 6th place when looking at all sports combined.  Texas is 23rd.  Iowa State is 22nd.  Nebraska has consistently ended up in the top 25 of the Director's Cup.  Is that well rounded enough for you?

Finally, as for the money perspective: when the Big 12 was formed university presidents and AD's voted and the majority ruled - to this form of revenue sharing (you're on t.v. = you get more money; you go to a Bowl game = you get more money). You may not like it, you may not agree with it, but it sure as hell ain't Texas' fault. Last I checked Mizzou and Neb started the talks of shopping around - not Texas. When all this conference realignment/expansion talk began Texas was the top option for all these other conferences...Texas never initiated anything, but somehow that's Texas' fault?!? NEBRASKA HAS NEVER BEEN OPPOSED TO THE REVENUE SHARING ISSUE.  THEY VOTED FOR THE CURRENT REVENUE DISTRIBUTION.  IF THERE WERE EQUAL REVENUE SHARING NEBRASKA WOULD ACTUALLY GET LESS MONEY.  THIS IS A NON-ISSUE FOR NEBRASKA! MISSOURI WAS THE SCHOOL TO INITIATE SHOPPING AROUND.  Nebraska didn't even start discussing shopping around until 4 weeks ago when they learned that Texas and other schools were also shopping around and it became clear that nobody else was committed to the Big XII.  Nebraska didn't become serious about shopping around until the Big XII meetings when 2 things happened.  1) Texas refused to give broadcasting right to the conference.  Essentially, it was asking Texas to give up the Bevo TV in favor  of a Big XII Network.  If Texas was "committed to the Big XII" then why wouldn't they make a decision that was for the benefit of the entire conference? 2) The ultimatum from Texas and Beebe was to commit through 2016.  Why only commit for 6 years?  What kind of stability does that show?  This further showed how the Big XII was a dysfunctional family from the start, and Nebraska got out of a bad marriage.

Keeping up with the Jones' ?!?!?!   We ARE the Jones'. If you're the Jones' then why'd you just get left behind by not 1 but 2 schools?!?  You must not be as glamorous as you thought if teams are leaving you for higher ground...




Since: Dec 19, 2009
Posted on: June 13, 2010 7:46 pm
 

Nebraska trounces Texas, moves to Big Ten

I think it is pretty funny how everyone just talks about the money involved in Nebraska’s decision to leave. No one really mentions the fact that they have been extremely uncompetitive in the Big 12.Texas does lead the league in championships 106 (both regular season and tournament) by a sizable amount.  However, Nebraska is second with 68.  Next is aTm with 44 


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