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Baylor's president wastes our time

Posted on: June 7, 2010 6:17 pm
 

It wasn't exactly the Full Lewinsky the Big 12 was expecting from Baylor.

Baylor president Kenneth Starr held a mostly vacuous press conference Monday regarding, I think, the expansion issue. Starr spoke of a "healthy rivalry" with the other Texas schools. Starr said he is "working hard to protect Baylor's interests". Starr said Baylor "emphatically supports" the Big 12.

Maybe, but Baylor will not commit to the Big 12. Not as long as there is a possibility to join the Pac-10. It has been written many places that Baylor is marshalling support in the statehouse to force the Pac-10 to take it if the reported Big 12 raid takes place.

Baylor's first choice might be the Big 12, but if the conference breaks up Baylor is going to be all about Baylor. That is the Big 12 mantra these days: "Every president for himself."

Full Lewinsky? Yes, it's that Kenneth Starr the former independent counsel who investigated Bill Clinton, including the former president's affair with Monica Lewinsky -- and, ahem, her dress.

Starr has been on the job for all of six days. Now he's trying to keep his team in the Big 12, out of Conference USA and relevant in the national landscape.

Oh, and about those healthy rivalries with Texas schools ... Guess health depends on what kind of painkillers you're taking.

Since 2000, Baylor is 8-31 against teams from the state of Texas.

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Since: Jun 8, 2010
Posted on: June 9, 2010 6:08 pm
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

Baylor's president wastes our time

Regardless of all the above stements (including stereotypes), doesn't change the fact that Baylor and Colorado football are on the same level currently and that Baylor athletics as a whole are currently head and shoulders above Colorado's.  We may not draw the beautiful people from West Coast cities, may not be in the mountains, may have a little crazy in the water down here, but come October 16th, we will kick the shit out of CU football.  Write it down.

 


Baylor and Colorado football have never and will never be on the same level in football or athletics at large, simply because Baylor is severely limited in recruiting because of the fact that Waco is such an awful place and it does not draw the beautiful people from West Coast cities who have money to spend.  No doubt that there is a little crazy in the water, although I think that's probably arsenic and lead. 

As far as October 16th goes, I wouldn't stoop to talk trash or speculate, but what I can say is the only losers in that game are the ones who have to either return to Waco or wasted 4 years of their lives in that dump.  Just being real friend. 



Since: Jun 8, 2010
Posted on: June 9, 2010 5:32 pm
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

Baylor's president wastes our time

The argument that Colorado is special because one time they won a NCG is staggeringly retarded.  At best.

Nearly half of the BCS schools have won a football title.  All in all in college football history there are over 30 that have.

Of course Colorado will win skiing championships you idiot.  How many schools do they compete with?  3?  Maybe 4?

Baylor's interests probably aren't real well served by going to the P10 or P16 or whatever it may be.  But let's keep it real here.


Wow, idiot huh?  Resorting to ad hominem attacks, eh?  I'll keep to the valid and sound arguments, because my CU education taught me better.

There are 12 NCAA Div I schools that have skiing, not 3 or 4.  And CU dominates.  This isn't unlike Johns Hopkins dominating in Lacrosse, something that it gets major respect for.  Plus in skiing they allow the other 22 non-Div I schools to compete as well, so its pretty much exactly like Lacrosse in that there are over 30 schools in competition every year.

The argument that Colorado is special because "one time" they won a championship in football being "retarded" is actually entirely negated by your comment that "over 30" schools have one a national title.  First, "over 30" is not "almost half" of the 120 BCS schools, that's just awful math.  Second, because the landscape of the past national champions is so skewed in favor of the major programs (Notre Dame, Alabama, Michigan, USC, etc.), winning just one when these guys have won so many is a major accomplishment.  That reminds me, how many does Baylor have?  How many times has Baylor finished in the top 10?  How about the top 25? 

Get your facts right before making these sorts of comments.  You are correct, however - Baylor's interests are not very well served by a departure to the Pac 10, primarily because the Pac 10 has as a pre-requisite to entry that evolution is taught at its institutions of higher learning...



Since: Jan 4, 2009
Posted on: June 9, 2010 1:10 pm
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

I guess those Texas schools really stick together, unless you are Rice, TCU, SMU or Houston. If Baylor is so eager to be the whipping boy of another conference have at it. Plenty of other rivalries would be getting blown up to make this happen. You don't think Oklahoma and Nebraska is still important to those of us who grew up with the Big 8?



Since: Jun 9, 2010
Posted on: June 9, 2010 10:22 am
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

By the way, that Ann Richards thing is just a urban legend.  However, don;t underestimate Baylor's influence in Texas.



Since: Jun 9, 2010
Posted on: June 9, 2010 10:20 am
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

Wow, what's with the Baylor-hate?  As a Texas grad, I hope Baylor joins Texas is we go to the PAC 10...while it is true that football has been down, other sports are very positive.  How many PAC 10 schools have not been to bowl games in a while?  Personally, I hope Colorado leaves...Big 12 can find better.  Nebraska would be the only real hole to fill.  I say keep the Big 12 together and invite Boise State, Utah, and Memphis, Louisville, or Cincinnati to the Big 12 north...any of those teams could plaster Colorado in any sport.



Since: May 29, 2008
Posted on: June 9, 2010 9:18 am
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

AmarilloJ, your reply just begs to be absolutely destoyed, I'm sorry.  First, you're making fun of CU's 16 skiing championships in the same sentence as referencing Waco, which to the overwhelming majority of the world is only known for being the location that harbored a bunch of cult nuts, fanatics, and child abusers who all tragically died for their stupidity in an FBI siege.  Seriously, google "Waco" and the first three things that pop up are about David Koresh, the siege, and the Branch Davidions themselves - great publicity for a place you want to defend.  In drawing such an implicit comparison what you've really done is invited the Boulder vs. Waco discussion, which by now I'm sure you're seeing was a huge mistake.  Boulder has been regarded for decades with monikers like "the most beautiful city in the US" "the most liveable city in the US" "the best place to live in the US"...the list goes on and on and on and on...The fact is the Pac 10 would be absolutely crazy not to want to bring in CU (and thereby Boulder and the amazing Rocky Mountains and all of our skiiing championships).  Think people from LA, San Francisco, Seattle (read: other cosmopolitan and beautiful cities) are going to travel to watch their teams play in Waco?  Fact is Waco is a dump, and the Boulder/Denver area is an amazing place to live and visit. 

Sports aside, (which is a slam dunk argument in favor of Colorado as well) how are your academics, Baylor friend?  Perhaps your AAU status?  How about the fact that Colorado was invited to join the AAU in 1966 and Baylor will NEVER be invited?  What do you think the Pac 10 prefers?  In fact, do you even know what the AAU is?  Seriously, go look it up, I will wait....Back yet?  Need more food for thought on why the Pac 10 will not give and invite Baylor over Colorado?  How about the fact that the #1 feeder state for out of state students at the University of Colorado is California -- which lets be honest -- the Pac 10 is run by UCLA, USC, Stanford, and Cal in the same way that Texas and Oklahoma run the Big 12.  Does the west coast vibe match with a place like Boulder better than a wacko-Baptist school more than two hours from Dallas in the middle of the sticks?

No great argument though, really...



Hold on a minute CU BLUFF. 

First, I am not a Baylor Bear. 

Second, the whole skiing championships and Waco reference was just to point out that you won't have slalom national champions in the Texas hill country.  Fact is the majority of major colleges are gonna be geographicly challenged on that so those national championship number are really irrellevant. 

Third, no one is doubting the wonderful landscape in Colorado.  Very beutiful scenery.  Lots of weird people though, reminds me of the people down in Austin.

Finally, my point was that if UT wants Baylor to go with them for whatever reason, that the Pac 10 would accept Baylor to please Texas.  And, before you accuse me of being a Texas Longhorn, I'm not one of them either.




Since: Nov 3, 2008
Posted on: June 9, 2010 7:01 am
 

Dennis Dodd wastes our time

There now - the title is correct.



Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: June 9, 2010 1:08 am
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

Baylor has a football team?  I thought this posturing was only about basketball.  



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: June 8, 2010 11:41 pm
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

What's Colorado's record vs. Baylor over the past 10 years?  2-2 ... hardly domination. I think Colorado would be best suited for the Mountain West, personally.



Since: Jan 16, 2007
Posted on: June 8, 2010 11:04 pm
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

The argument that Colorado is special because one time they won a NCG is staggeringly retarded.  At best.

Nearly half of the BCS schools have won a football title.  All in all in college football history there are over 30 that have.

Of course Colorado will win skiing championships you idiot.  How many schools do they compete with?  3?  Maybe 4?

Baylor's interests probably aren't real well served by going to the P10 or P16 or whatever it may be.  But let's keep it real here.


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