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Baylor's president wastes our time

Posted on: June 7, 2010 6:17 pm
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It wasn't exactly the Full Lewinsky the Big 12 was expecting from Baylor.

Baylor president Kenneth Starr held a mostly vacuous press conference Monday regarding, I think, the expansion issue. Starr spoke of a "healthy rivalry" with the other Texas schools. Starr said he is "working hard to protect Baylor's interests". Starr said Baylor "emphatically supports" the Big 12.

Maybe, but Baylor will not commit to the Big 12. Not as long as there is a possibility to join the Pac-10. It has been written many places that Baylor is marshalling support in the statehouse to force the Pac-10 to take it if the reported Big 12 raid takes place.

Baylor's first choice might be the Big 12, but if the conference breaks up Baylor is going to be all about Baylor. That is the Big 12 mantra these days: "Every president for himself."

Full Lewinsky? Yes, it's that Kenneth Starr the former independent counsel who investigated Bill Clinton, including the former president's affair with Monica Lewinsky -- and, ahem, her dress.

Starr has been on the job for all of six days. Now he's trying to keep his team in the Big 12, out of Conference USA and relevant in the national landscape.

Oh, and about those healthy rivalries with Texas schools ... Guess health depends on what kind of painkillers you're taking.

Since 2000, Baylor is 8-31 against teams from the state of Texas.

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Since: Sep 8, 2006
Posted on: June 8, 2010 2:47 pm
 

Booooo to Baylor

I don't see how the Texas legislature can force this.  Baylor is a private school and is not subsidized by the state....therefore they should have to do the same thing that TCU did and gain respect on their own.  Ann Richards is no longer governor here and the rest of the Texas schools shouldn't have to keep dragging a private school along...its unfair to schools like Rice that are far superior academically and athletically.



Since: Oct 8, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2010 12:15 pm
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

Colorado won a national championship in 90-91 and used to go the the Big-12 title game often. Baylor has done zilch. EXCEPT, they did hype up their team this year which failed miserably after their star QB went down.


CU HAS done something. Winning a NCG is a big deal. Not too many programs have done that.



Since: Oct 8, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2010 12:13 pm
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

Colorado won a national championship in 90-91 and used to go the the Big-12 title game often. Baylor has done zilch. EXCEPT, they did hype up their team this year which failed miserably after their star QB went down.


CU HAS done something. Winning a NCG is a big deal. Not too many programs have done that.



Since: Oct 8, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2010 12:08 pm
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

Seriously, how many times are you going to repost this?



Since: May 2, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2010 11:41 am
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

Don't forget the TV market that Colorado brings in, which absolutely dwarfs Baylor's market.  Personally, I would think that having Texas, Texas A&M, and Texas Tech would pretty much wrap up the Texas market.  However, if the Pac-10 absolutely wanted to have a team near the Dallas/Ft Worth area, I would think that TCU would be a much more obvious choice.



Since: May 2, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2010 11:35 am
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

I'm sure that the Pac-10 or Big Ten is just dying to add Baylor.  Must be nice having powerful politicians helping to prop up a school that would probably would struggle in the Mountain West, WAC, or CUSA. 

This is what frustrates the hell out of me.  Schools like Baylor coast by enjoying the fruits of BCS membership; while schools like TCU, Houston, Utah, Boise State, BYU, Southern Miss, East Carolina, UCF, etc are left on the outside looking in.  If only any of these schools had political friends as strong as Baylor has.



Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: June 8, 2010 11:12 am
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

Baylor's president wastes our timeDodd must be feeling the pressure of job insecurity. We all know this is his forte' and he feels threatened by others proficiency at this extraordinary skill.  



Since: Oct 24, 2007
Posted on: June 8, 2010 9:05 am
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

They both blow at football?  Baylor has been to ZERO bowl games since the Big XII formation.  Colorado has been to EIGHT during that same stretch.  Baylor has not been ranked in the top 25 during that same stretch.  Colorado has finished in the top 10 TWICE (1996, 2001).  Colorado has 4 North titles this decade with 1 Big XII championship.  Baylor's best finish was 5th place in the Big XII South in 2005.  Colorado may have been down since their recruiting scandal in 2006, but I gurantee you that Colorado is still able to bring more football $$$ to the table than Baylor.  And isn't what this entire conferene realignment is all about...money?!?  Colorado averaged 50,000 per football game last year....Baylor averaged 36,000.  The number should probably be lower because I was at the Nebraska-Baylor game this year in Waco.  Approximately 75% of the crowd was pro-Nebraska.  8 bowl games vs. 0 bowl games. At least one guaranteed nationally televised football game a year vs. Nebraska (=more money) vs. a few appearances on Fox Sports or Versuses network.  And you say they're equal in terms of football?!?

Baylor's only argument is the men's basketball team being better, but that was just in the past 4-5 years.  The other sports honestly don't matter in terms of money.  They're nice for bragging rights when saying you have XXX number of conference or national championships, but they don't bring much $$$ to the university or conference.

I feel bad that, as a Husker fan, I'm actually sticking up for Colorado in this ordeal.  Maybe it's Baylor's Regent calling my state a bunch of "corn shuckers".  Maybe it's the state of Texas' arrogant propoganda to get their way.  Maybe it's the lack values and morals that Texas presents in the way they do business.  Regardless, the entire state of Texas has shown that 10 levels higher than everybody else, and it's really the opposite of the way the original Big 8's Midwestern ideals and morals.




Since: Jun 8, 2010
Posted on: June 8, 2010 8:16 am
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

Colorado is also member of the AAU and Baylor is not. Colorado has about 5 times the enrollment and alumni of Baylor. Colorado has 6 Noble Prize winners whereas Baylor has 3. The University of Colorado has produced 15 astronauts and so far as I can find Baylor has produced none. The list goes on and simply confirms the arrogance of the Baylor apologists. I say apologists because it really is pathetic for a university to turn to leveraging politics to hitch a ride on the coat-tails of the likes of Texas and Texas A&M when Baylor is nowhere near the quality or those schools, or Colorado.



Since: May 29, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2010 8:13 am
 

Baylor's president wastes our time

Colorado has 22 national championships (16 skiing, 3 men's CC, 2 women's CC, 1 football.  Baylor has 2 (men's tennis and women's basketball).  Colorado has 27 conference titles in the Big XII.  Baylor has 31.

16 skiing championships?  HA  HAHA  HAHA HA!!!  You're a funny guy!  I guess Baylor just needs to it the slopes down there in Waco a little harder.  Look you make an argument.  Not a good one but an argument none the less.  Fact is both Colorado and Baylor BLOW at football.  Colorado was good about 20 years ago.  Baylor about the same.  That means good compared to now, not compared to an actual good team.  Since no one has an edge there lets look elsewhere.  Baseball/softball?  Edge Baylor.  Mens and womens basketball?  Edge Baylor.  Those are the top three sports at any school not counting hockey up North or Lacrosse out East.  So it looks to me like the score is Bayor 2 Coloado 0.  If taking Baylor seals the deal with Texas, then GOOD LUCK COLORADO!!!  In Conference USA that is.


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