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Baylor's president wastes our time

Posted on: June 7, 2010 6:17 pm

It wasn't exactly the Full Lewinsky the Big 12 was expecting from Baylor.

Baylor president Kenneth Starr held a mostly vacuous press conference Monday regarding, I think, the expansion issue. Starr spoke of a "healthy rivalry" with the other Texas schools. Starr said he is "working hard to protect Baylor's interests". Starr said Baylor "emphatically supports" the Big 12.

Maybe, but Baylor will not commit to the Big 12. Not as long as there is a possibility to join the Pac-10. It has been written many places that Baylor is marshalling support in the statehouse to force the Pac-10 to take it if the reported Big 12 raid takes place.

Baylor's first choice might be the Big 12, but if the conference breaks up Baylor is going to be all about Baylor. That is the Big 12 mantra these days: "Every president for himself."

Full Lewinsky? Yes, it's that Kenneth Starr the former independent counsel who investigated Bill Clinton, including the former president's affair with Monica Lewinsky -- and, ahem, her dress.

Starr has been on the job for all of six days. Now he's trying to keep his team in the Big 12, out of Conference USA and relevant in the national landscape.

Oh, and about those healthy rivalries with Texas schools ... Guess health depends on what kind of painkillers you're taking.

Since 2000, Baylor is 8-31 against teams from the state of Texas.

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Since: Sep 11, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2010 10:52 pm

Baylor's president wastes our time

As a neutral observor, I think Colorado is a much more atractive choice. Basically for both the enjoyment of traveling there for away games as Boulder is just Drop Dead gorgeous and the shear favorable Mountain Time Zone as opposed to the Baylor Central time zone. It just makes more sense to court Colorado's AAU status and academics.

Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: June 8, 2010 8:13 pm

Baylor's president wastes our time

Regardless of all the above stements (including stereotypes), doesn't change the fact that Baylor and Colorado football are on the same level currently and that Baylor athletics as a whole are currently head and shoulders above Colorado's.  We may not draw the beautiful people from West Coast cities, may not be in the mountains, may have a little crazy in the water down here, but come October 16th, we will kick the shit out of CU football.  Write it down.

Since: Jun 8, 2010
Posted on: June 8, 2010 7:03 pm

Baylor's president wastes our time

AmarilloJ, your reply just begs to be absolutely destoyed, I'm sorry.  First, you're making fun of CU's 16 skiing championships in the same sentence as referencing Waco, which to the overwhelming majority of the world is only known for being the location that harbored a bunch of cult nuts, fanatics, and child abusers who all tragically died for their stupidity in an FBI siege.  Seriously, google "Waco" and the first three things that pop up are about David Koresh, the siege, and the Branch Davidions themselves - great publicity for a place you want to defend.  In drawing such an implicit comparison what you've really done is invited the Boulder vs. Waco discussion, which by now I'm sure you're seeing was a huge mistake.  Boulder has been regarded for decades with monikers like "the most beautiful city in the US" "the most liveable city in the US" "the best place to live in the US"...the list goes on and on and on and on...The fact is the Pac 10 would be absolutely crazy not to want to bring in CU (and thereby Boulder and the amazing Rocky Mountains and all of our skiiing championships).  Think people from LA, San Francisco, Seattle (read: other cosmopolitan and beautiful cities) are going to travel to watch their teams play in Waco?  Fact is Waco is a dump, and the Boulder/Denver area is an amazing place to live and visit. 

Sports aside, (which is a slam dunk argument in favor of Colorado as well) how are your academics, Baylor friend?  Perhaps your AAU status?  How about the fact that Colorado was invited to join the AAU in 1966 and Baylor will NEVER be invited?  What do you think the Pac 10 prefers?  In fact, do you even know what the AAU is?  Seriously, go look it up, I will wait....Back yet?  Need more food for thought on why the Pac 10 will not give and invite Baylor over Colorado?  How about the fact that the #1 feeder state for out of state students at the University of Colorado is California -- which lets be honest -- the Pac 10 is run by UCLA, USC, Stanford, and Cal in the same way that Texas and Oklahoma run the Big 12.  Does the west coast vibe match with a place like Boulder better than a wacko-Baptist school more than two hours from Dallas in the middle of the sticks?

No great argument though, really...

Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: June 8, 2010 5:09 pm

Baylor's president wastes our time

Baylor brings plenty to the table outside of football, its only a matter of time before that obstacle is overcome.  It wont be long till UT's day in the sun is gone, the UT basketball team lasted all of a week.  If it wasn't for Vince Young, Mack Brown would be long gone and burnt orange nation would be right back in the mediocrity the football team is known for.  I welcome your arrogance, it makes the fall that much harder.

Since: Oct 26, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2010 4:49 pm

Baylor's president wastes our time

Aridhol, you realize the focus is on football?  Football revenue is generating all the discussion, arguments, whines, and feeble efforts to support the Baylors of this world.

U of Texas appears arrogant and is because they are in demand.  You may hate burnt orange and despise the Longhorn logo, but it is gold from coast to coast. 

What irony!  Baylor's colors are green and gold and yet the school brings little of either to the battle for the dollar. 

Ken Starr and the Baylor faithful are plain scared.  No major conference needs them.  And so they wish to hitch their 10 carat star to the 24 carat neighbor in Austin.  They ought to admit it rather than have their president open his mouth and embarrass every Bear alum.

Since: Oct 26, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2010 4:36 pm

Baylor's president wastes our time

Second on the Boooos

You are right, Kiljare.  However, there are a lot of southern Baptist voters in the state. 
Rick "I'm an Aggie" Perry is not going to stand up to the Baptists. While Baptist education is an oxymoron, and they rank only ahead of Catholics for going beyond high school, Baylor is still their Flagship school.
 And up to now the alums are more content with losing to good teams than with being competitive.

Ironic that the school is run by a lot of conservative fundamentalists but their football team continues to be inept at blocking, tackling--the fundamentals of that sport.

Since: Jun 19, 2009
Posted on: June 8, 2010 4:35 pm

Baylor's president wastes our time

With all the talk about AAU membership and academic priorities, I'm amused that no one even mentions AAU members like Rice and Tulane in passing. So, I would sort of ask the same question. But I guess that we can all guess at the real reasons.

Since: Oct 26, 2008
Posted on: June 8, 2010 4:15 pm

Baylor's president wastes our time

I think you are being too kind to Starr and Baylor.  Is he hiding in Waco because Pepperdine and California didn't like his act and he can drive to Crawford for a Bush fix?

I can't imagine the Pac-10 is that interested in the commute from west to east.  Texas, OU, who else helps them?

I am not a conservative.

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: June 8, 2010 4:02 pm

Baylor's president wastes our time

Dodd, you like to bring up that these talks sadly only focuses on football, yet that is precisely what you are most guilty of.   Baylor is #3 in the Big 12 in overall championships last year as well as ranked #4 in academics.  But we offer nothing to the Big 12 or any other conference?  Please do some research and use facts before writing the same article for two weeks straight.

Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: June 8, 2010 3:36 pm

Baylor's president wastes our time

In my eyes, Colorado and Baylor's football program has been consistently bad as of late.  Currently, Baylor has upside, CU does not.  Baylor as of late has across the board consistently better athletic programs and performances than Colorado.  Does anyone think Nebraska would have the sway it does not if they had not recovered the past two years?  No, they would be laughed at for trying to hold the conference hostage.  What is striking is the fact that Baylor can even force their name into the conversation.  Dodd you should be writing about how much Colorado has fallen.

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