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Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Posted on: April 18, 2010 6:52 am
Edited on: April 18, 2010 4:17 pm
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The timetable for Big Ten expansion may have moved up to today (April 18), the Chicago Tribune has reported.

The conference said in December it would take 12-18 months to research the expansion issue. Now, the Trib suggests, it could happen as soon as this week beginning with a Sunday meeting in Washington, D.C.. All the I-A conference commissioners will meet in Phoenix for the annual BCS meetings. Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany could inform impacted conferences at that time.

The Trib also reports, as I have suggested in recent stories, that the expansion could be by as many as three to five teams. 


You can read about more Big Ten expansion developments here.  

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Since: Feb 3, 2009
Posted on: September 12, 2010 6:41 pm
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

all i can say is the Big Ten needs this b/c when Joe Pa leaves the conference will be dealt a huge blow... the sweater can't save 'em from that



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: April 21, 2010 4:45 pm
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

My point is this, be careful with the broad generalizations - the Big Ten does have high academic standards - however they are not the only BCS conference with such standards.

Good point, Big10toPac10.  Some posters have overstated the Big Ten's academic prowess a bit.  The data you provide from US News & World Report is good, but does not show the whole picture.  Yes, both the ACC and Pac-10 have more schools in the top-30 than the Big Ten.  However, the Big Ten is the only BCS conference with ALL of its members listed as Tier 1 National Universities. It is the only BCS conference where ALL of it's members are AAU schools.  I'm not knocking the ACC or the Pac-10, as they are academically excellent, but not all of their schools are AAU and Tier 1. 

I am not surprised that the other two conferences you mention are the ACC and Pac-10.  Like the Big Ten, these two conferences are academic conferences in addition to being athletic conferences.  This is not the case with the other 3 BCS conferences, who are strictly athletic...not that they don't boast some very prestigious academic institutions as well.  They just don't share the same level of academic / research ties as you see in the ACC, Big Ten and Pac-10.  This is nothing new, either.  There are reasons why the Big Ten and Pac-10 have such strong ties, including the long standing Rose Bowl connection.  Th
is is because those two conferences discovered their common academic philosophies many decades ago.  It is also why they cling so fiercely to their Rose Bowl tradition.  It represents more than just a bowl game, which is something fans of the non-academic BCS conferences generally just don't understand. 



Since: Sep 22, 2009
Posted on: April 21, 2010 4:29 pm
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Personally, I have no problem with who goes where.  In fact, it's almost dumb for any of the institutions under consideration to not join such a lucrative deal.  The problem I have with all of this is how the academics are so stressed, when it's all about the football revenue and the money markets behind the desire of the Big 10 to bring these schools in.

With the money these schools will be making, they should have more than enough to pay their way into the necessary academic standings.  Mizzouri complains about Baylor not being Northwestern, but it appears the whinning is because they don't get enough money during the football season.

All I know is I wouldn't watch the Big 10 Network to see a debate between Michigan and Wisconsin or a chemistry bake off between Iowa and Ohio State.  But I would watch the channel to see great football matchups between any of those schools. 

Lastly, I greatly respect the academic status of the Big 10.  Every school in that conference should be proud of such accolades.  However, I get annoyed seeing the conference playing the academic card, when it's about the population and the football monies involved.



Since: Jul 12, 2008
Posted on: April 21, 2010 3:02 am
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

I hate to burst your bubble but Mich St, Iowa, Illinois, Minnesota arent Harvard, Yale, Columbia and Dartmouth.  Nebraska competes with any Big 10 school other than Northwestern or Michigan.



Since: Aug 31, 2008
Posted on: April 21, 2010 1:11 am
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?



I am just going sat this, if adding two teams like ND and Neb means that we have to many teams, I would be willing to say goodbye to MN or IN or NW.  I am just saying......

 



Since: Jul 12, 2007
Posted on: April 20, 2010 5:28 pm
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

You are forgetting one thing.

Nebraska is in a golden spot right now. They basically compete against Missouri to go to the B12 title game. It doesnt get much better than that now that they are back to their former form.



Since: Mar 20, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2010 3:57 pm
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

The gist of your argument is correct, however certain statements are over-exaggerations.  Two if not three conferences might take offense to the disparity you draw with the Big Ten schools.  The ACC and the PAC 10 have some of the best schools in the World - not nation - in their conferences; and the rest of the conference is not terribly off par with the Big Ten in academics.  The Big 12 and the SEC could also have a legitamate challenge to daunting difference you suggest between the Big Ten and other BCS conferences.

PAC 10 (Top 30)**
Stanford
Cal
UCLA
USC

Big 10 (Top 30)
Northwestern
Michigan

ACC (Top 30)
Duke
Virginia
UNC
Wake Forest

** US News and World Report Rankings

My point is this, be careful with the broad generalizations - the Big Ten does have high academic standards - however they are not the only BCS conference with such standards.




Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: April 20, 2010 1:19 pm
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

I would never say WVU offers a sub-par education.  And there are many very bright people that come from WVU.  But as someone said, you can't judge a school by 0.1% of its population.  You have to judge it by its entire student body.  I am sure there are plenty of very successful business people, bankers, engineers, etc that have come from Community Colleges as well.  I doubt you'd like to put WVU on par with a community college. 

This is akin to saying the ACC was the best conference in basketball this year because one of its teams won the title.  Are we to judge an entire conference based on a single team?  Are we to judge an entire student body based on one student?

Fact is, WVU's admissions standards are much lower than many other universities.  I respect that WVU does not exclude students, because I do agree that anyone who wants to challenge themselves in college has the right to enroll...but at the same, do you think an individual gains more from being in a challenging environment with the best of the best?  Or do they learn more by not being challenged in classes with a bunch of average students?  It's the same in athletics...those that are playing against the best competition challenge themselves more and have a better chance to make it in the pros.

I am trying really hard not to disrespect WVU here, but facts are facts, they just don't measure up to the Big 10 schools when it comes to academics.  I think its great that WVU has so many Rhodes Scholars...but there are so many more criteria that go into evaluating a school.  Research, admissions standards, graduation rates, patents, etc, etc, etc.




Since: Feb 3, 2009
Posted on: April 20, 2010 12:33 pm
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

nice comment, just wanna let you know Rutgers is in New Jersey.



Since: Apr 19, 2010
Posted on: April 20, 2010 10:49 am
 

Big Ten expansion timetable moving up?

Well.....I would be one of them. I take no real disrespect but I also know what goes behind the "ratings". I am not one of those people that believe Nebraska provides a sub par education. I think if you are a tier 1 research institution you are a good university. I believe WVU is a tier 1 school also ($100,000,000 in research annually, WVU $~125,000,000) In order to rate an institution top academically that institution must exclude people. Why is that? Isn't their job to educate....no it is to make their program desired. I received my MBA from one of those "great" institutions Pitt. While I was there, their MBA program was ranked 16th in the country. While I was there they started to offer an undergraduate business degree. US News and World Report ranked the undergraduate program 12th before they started the first semester. THEY HADN'T EVEN TAUGHT A SINGLE CLASS YET, LET ALONE GRANT A DEGREE!!!!!!!! What the hell could they possibly rank the program 12th on? It comes down to MBA program recognition and selectivity. We need more institutions that educate and fewer that gain prominance by excluding students.

I have worked professionally with a number of people from a number of institutions that are very highly rated and I will tell you, they professionally weren't worth crap. I have not personally worked with anyone from WVU that I felt was incompetent. They must be even better educators because they take those 12,345,678 hillbillies and make them competent professionals rather than exclude them and select only the best high school students around a make them incompetent professionals.


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